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Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:17 pm
by Anonymous User
Almost didn't bid Texas due to advice on this forum. No ties at all. Not even close. I bid a handful of TX firms with a few of my last spots at OCI just for shits. Guess what? Got an interview, a callback and an offer from one of the TX big three (or whatevs). Guess whose headed to Texas? This guy! Sure, sure, this may be a one-off, but you get the moral of the story.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:19 pm
by Tiago Splitter
School/grades?

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:22 pm
by Anonymous User
Don't want to out myself, but T1 outside TX, grades are nothing special.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:27 pm
by lblelalr
yeah i think the conventional TLS wisdom on TX being super insular is a bit extreme. i have decent grades at a T10 but no ties to TX at all and had a good number of CBs in Houston and Austin. i just harped on loving the CoL and low taxes

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:29 pm
by Tiago Splitter
lblelalr wrote:yeah i think the conventional TLS wisdom on TX being super insular is a bit extreme. i have decent grades at a T10 but no ties to TX at all and had a good number of CBs in Houston and Austin. i just harped on loving the CoL and low taxes
T10 with good grades getting TX callbacks is not out of line with the TLS CW. The OP hasn't said much of anything about his school or grades so it's hard to say whether his story is all that shocking.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:41 pm
by thesealocust
You can get jobs outside of regions you have ties, and people do every year. It's just a lower expected value strategy than hunting for jobs places that you have ties.

Breaking news, more at 11, etc.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:51 pm
by Anonymous User
Tiago Splitter wrote:
lblelalr wrote:yeah i think the conventional TLS wisdom on TX being super insular is a bit extreme. i have decent grades at a T10 but no ties to TX at all and had a good number of CBs in Houston and Austin. i just harped on loving the CoL and low taxes
T10 with good grades getting TX callbacks is not out of line with the TLS CW. The OP hasn't said much of anything about his school or grades so it's hard to say whether his story is all that shocking.
I don't think Houston is that surprising, since it isn't particularly insular, but I do think getting a good number of CBs in Austin is somewhat difficult sans ties.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:52 pm
by wiz
Anonymous User wrote:
Tiago Splitter wrote:
lblelalr wrote:yeah i think the conventional TLS wisdom on TX being super insular is a bit extreme. i have decent grades at a T10 but no ties to TX at all and had a good number of CBs in Houston and Austin. i just harped on loving the CoL and low taxes
T10 with good grades getting TX callbacks is not out of line with the TLS CW. The OP hasn't said much of anything about his school or grades so it's hard to say whether his story is all that shocking.
I don't think Houston is that surprising, since it isn't particularly insular, but I do think getting a good number of CBs in Austin is somewhat difficult sans ties.
Didn't mean to post anon.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Don't want to out myself, but T1 outside TX, grades are nothing special.
Would you mind giving a little more info than this? You aren't going to out yourself if you give a range of schools/grades.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:53 pm
by wiz
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Don't want to out myself, but T1 outside TX, grades are nothing special.
Would you mind giving a little more info than this? You aren't going to out yourself if you give a range of schools/grades.
Again, didn't mean to post anon.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:54 pm
by IAFG
Congratulations!

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:03 pm
by thesealocust
IAFG wrote:Congratulations!
This is the least snarky I've ever seen you and I don't trust it.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:08 pm
by IAFG
thesealocust wrote:
IAFG wrote:Congratulations!
This is the least snarky I've ever seen you and I don't trust it.
Guy pulls off rare feat resulting in great job. There is only one appropriate response.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:41 pm
by AntipodeanPhil
A close friend at my T6 got an offer at the Dallas office of a top Texas firm this season with no ties - he'd only visited the state once, and hadn't even been to Dallas before. I got an offer at one of the top Chicago firms with no ties beyond having lived in a different part of the Midwest for undergrad. Ties are overrated on TLS for the major non-NY markets, imo.

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:01 pm
by Tiago Splitter
AntipodeanPhil wrote:A close friend at my T6 got an offer at the Dallas office of a top Texas firm this season with no ties - he'd only visited the state once, and hadn't even been to Dallas before. I got an offer at one of the top Chicago firms with no ties beyond having lived in a different part of the Midwest for undergrad. Ties are overrated on TLS for the major non-NY markets, imo.
T6 lol

Re: Texas Big Law w/ no ties--this just happened!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:09 pm
by Elston Gunn
Tiago Splitter wrote:
AntipodeanPhil wrote:A close friend at my T6 got an offer at the Dallas office of a top Texas firm this season with no ties - he'd only visited the state once, and hadn't even been to Dallas before. I got an offer at one of the top Chicago firms with no ties beyond having lived in a different part of the Midwest for undergrad. Ties are overrated on TLS for the major non-NY markets, imo.
T6 lol
Yes...not representative.

Anyway, TLS cw is not that you definitely need ties to get a job at one of the big 3 or ny satellites in Houston. However, the cw is that if you don't have the grades for one of those firms, you probably won't get a job at the more regional firms without ties.