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Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:13 am**

Why did Shearman experience such a drop on Vault from #8 to #27?

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Vault+Rel ... a077250429

Are other V10's susceptible to what happened to Shearman? Are there any firms (WLRK/S&C/Cravath or V5) immune to this?

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:23 am**

Anonymous User wrote:Why did Shearman experience such a drop on Vault from #8 to #27?

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Vault+Rel ... a077250429

Are other V10's susceptible to what happened to Shearman? Are there any firms (WLRK/S&C/Cravath or V5) immune to this?

Before answering your questions, one must ask oneself "what happened to Shearman." Its "Vault rank" declined, but what does that mean?

Do you know what the Vault survey is? Do you know its methodology? Do you know what impact it has in the industry - who pays attention to it, what firms do in pursuit of rankings, etc.? Do you know what things could happen that would cause a firm to move up or down on the list?

Join me, and we shall contemplate those questions on the Tree of Woe.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:27 am**

The Vault law guide also includes a ranking of the Best 20 Firms to Work for as rated by associates based on quality of life issues including pay, diversity, training and more. The top 10 Best Firms to Work for are as follows:

Firm (Headquarters) Score

1. Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA) 8.437

2. Winston & Strawn (Chicago, IL) 8.277

3. Venture Law Group (Menlo Park, CA) 8.229

4. Jenner & Block, LLC (Chicago, IL) 8.135

5. Hale and Dorr LLP (Boston, MA) 8.051

6. Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (Washington, DC) 8.032

7. Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (Palo Alto, CA) 7.984

8. Preston Gates & Ellis LLP (Seattle, WA) 7.964

9. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY) 7.905

10. Alston & Bird LLP (Atlanta, GA) 7.904

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:36 am**

Anonymous User wrote:Why did Shearman experience such a drop on Vault from #8 to #27?

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Vault+Rel ... a077250429

Are other V10's susceptible to what happened to Shearman? Are there any firms (WLRK/S&C/Cravath or V5) immune to this?

If those firms prestige drops, their vault rank will drop

Congrats, you now understand the only metric vault uses

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:40 am**

YOLOcontendere wrote:
The Vault law guide also includes a ranking of the Best 20 Firms to Work for as rated by associates based on quality of life issues including pay, diversity, training and more. The top 10 Best Firms to Work for are as follows:

Firm (Headquarters) Score

1. Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA) 8.437

2. Winston & Strawn (Chicago, IL) 8.277

3. Venture Law Group (Menlo Park, CA) 8.229

4. Jenner & Block, LLC (Chicago, IL) 8.135

5. Hale and Dorr LLP (Boston, MA) 8.051

6. Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (Washington, DC) 8.032

7. Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (Palo Alto, CA) 7.984

8. Preston Gates & Ellis LLP (Seattle, WA) 7.964

9. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY) 7.905

10. Alston & Bird LLP (Atlanta, GA) 7.904

You laugh, but for people who seek out WLRK then make the choice to work there, it seems they kind of love it. There can be a disconnect between the hours you work and the environment in which you work those hours.

Plenty of people with solid 9 to 5s despise their job and went to quit, neh?

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:46 am**

Oh for sure - looking at them now, WLRK actually do quite well on associate satisfaction surveys - then compare with CSM. You could say it comes down to personality, or maybe you could also say it comes down to dat BONUS.

Posted: **Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 pm**

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