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Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Which firm would you choose if you wanted to do Corporate work (specifically M&A). Suppose you are primarily interested in ability to get substantive work and chances for good exit opportunities.

If you need more information, I would be more than happy to provide. I have equally good impressions of all of these places based on my callbacks and am mainly concerned with the two factors above in making my decision. Thanks!

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:03 pm
by equality7-2521
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Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:49 pm
by lawyerwannabe
While Jones Day is a great firm, people voting for it over Latham are people waiting for Latham offers.

Latham has the best corporate department in NY out of these firms. HTH.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:19 pm
by Anonymous User
OP here. What about the fact that Paul Weiss has been rapidly expanding its corporate practice group? Are there any benefits to being a part of a growing practice group that might not be present at a firm like Latham?

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:00 pm
by Anonymous User
Which geographic region? If Boston, then clearly Ropes. I'm a Ropes person myself, so I'm also biased. ;-)

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:10 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:OP here. What about the fact that Paul Weiss has been rapidly expanding its corporate practice group? Are there any benefits to being a part of a growing practice group that might not be present at a firm like Latham?
Having a rapidly expanding corporate practice means that corporate associates at PW will get more work. However, at well established corporate practices (especially CSM/S&C/Wachtell and probably the rest of V10), corporate associates have more work than they have time for.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:42 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Which geographic region? If Boston, then clearly Ropes. I'm a Ropes person myself, so I'm also biased. ;-)
They are all New York offices. That is my biggest reservation about choosing Ropes, it seems that a lot of the corporate work is run through the Boston office.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:07 pm
by Anonymous User
lawyerwannabe wrote:While Jones Day is a great firm, people voting for it over Latham are people waiting for Latham offers.

Latham has the best corporate department in NY out of these firms. HTH.
How are you defining "best"? I recognize a quantitative rank isn't the same as your qualitative assessment, but we aren't lacking in deals at Jones Day.

http://www.jonesday.com/jones-day-ranks ... 7-11-2013/

The promo is from the firm website, but the data is from a subscription only Thompson Reuters report. Yes we get those numbers by being big, but we have been very busy with some really interesting deals. I'm not in NY but work with them often (active on two deals at the moment). Other deals I have worked recently with Dallas, Silicon Valley, Beijing & Paris. And if you're going to NY--Bob Prof*sek (*=u) is a huge figure in the industry and an impressive individual to boot.

Short story, OP, deal work is long hours and hard. Go where you felt the best about the people you are going to work with. You'll have decent exit options from any of these firms.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:21 am
by Old Gregg
Anonymous User wrote:
lawyerwannabe wrote:While Jones Day is a great firm, people voting for it over Latham are people waiting for Latham offers.

Latham has the best corporate department in NY out of these firms. HTH.
How are you defining "best"? I recognize a quantitative rank isn't the same as your qualitative assessment, but we aren't lacking in deals at Jones Day.

http://www.jonesday.com/jones-day-ranks ... 7-11-2013/

The promo is from the firm website, but the data is from a subscription only Thompson Reuters report. Yes we get those numbers by being big, but we have been very busy with some really interesting deals. I'm not in NY but work with them often (active on two deals at the moment). Other deals I have worked recently with Dallas, Silicon Valley, Beijing & Paris. And if you're going to NY--Bob Prof*sek (*=u) is a huge figure in the industry and an impressive individual to boot.

Short story, OP, deal work is long hours and hard. Go where you felt the best about the people you are going to work with. You'll have decent exit options from any of these firms.
Well, Latham also has the best severance package in NYC, since we're offering really baseless superlatives in this thread.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:29 am
by Anonymous User
OP, do you have an offer from the NY office?

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:55 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Which geographic region? If Boston, then clearly Ropes. I'm a Ropes person myself, so I'm also biased. ;-)
They are all New York offices. That is my biggest reservation about choosing Ropes, it seems that a lot of the corporate work is run through the Boston office.
A significant amount of work is run through Ropes' NYC office. And you also do a lot of work cross-office. You might have to do a little more of work to get on people's radar in Boston, but NYC is pretty significant.

Re: Latham v. Paul Weiss v. Jones Day v. Ropes & Gray

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:15 pm
by Anonymous User
Some good advice ITT. What about in terms of exit options? It seems that working at Paul Weiss your exit options are limited to PE firms and Hedge funds, since they do not really have corporate clients. Jones Day and Latham on the other hand are more diverse and would offer contact with both PE firms and Corporations.