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Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:50 pm
by Anonymous User
This is to give hope to those who are concerned about finding employment. I graduated in 2012 at the bottom 20% of my class from a very lowly ranked tier two. I now work at a mid-sized firm (26-100 attys) in a secondary market making approx 80k and doing commercial as well as employment litigation.

AMA

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:51 pm
by 84651846190
Pretty sure you're in the wrong place. This site is mostly for people in the top 10% to engage in intellectual masturbation and subtly self-congratulatory threads.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:52 pm
by Nova
How many places did you apply?

Is the secondary market you work in the same market as your T2?

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:53 pm
by Anonymous User
Yes it is.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:55 pm
by Anonymous User
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:Pretty sure you're in the wrong place. This site is mostly for people in the top 10% to engage in intellectual masturbation and subtly self-congratulatory threads.
Well from what I gather, lots of non-top 10% people visit the site, including myself. Congratulations from me to you so you don't have to go it alone.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:04 pm
by BarbellDreams
How did you find your job?

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:07 pm
by DwightSchruteFarms
This title actually made me LOL.

Regardless, congrats my friend! Consider yourself incredibly lucky...and this is coming from a fellow low-T2er that landed a biglaw gig with barely above median grades. To say luck was not 90% of the reason would be an absolute lie.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:07 pm
by Anonymous User
My friend's friend is an attorney at the firm. Worked there during law school and was hired thereafter as an associate.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:08 pm
by Anonymous User
DwightSchruteFarms wrote:This title actually made me LOL.

Regardless, congrats my friend! Consider yourself incredibly lucky...and this is coming from a fellow low-T2er that landed a biglaw gig with barely above median grades. To say luck was not 90% of the reason would be an absolute lie.
How did you do it? Always looking to give fellow low tiered ppl advice.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:08 pm
by rad lulz
What kind of work do you do? Do you like it?

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:13 pm
by Anonymous User
Bottom of the class now I'm here. Bottom of the class now I'm the only one here. Just think its funny how it goes, now I'm billing 250 per hour when I couldn't get volunteer hired

Bottom of the class now I'm here.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:13 pm
by Anonymous User
rad lulz wrote:What kind of work do you do? Do you like it?
It's in the original post.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:14 pm
by mr.hands
How many other threads have to tagged encouraging people to see this thread?

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:14 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What kind of work do you do? Do you like it?
It's in the original post.
Do you like it?

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:16 pm
by Anonymous User
rad lulz wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What kind of work do you do? Do you like it?
It's in the original post.
Do you like it?
I like the fact that I'm able to do it. Doing it is not as great as any first year would know.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:17 pm
by Nova
Nova wrote:How many places did you apply?

Is the secondary market you work in the same market as your T2?
+how many interviews did you have?

+when did you get hired? (before graduation, before the bar, 9 months out, etc)

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:18 pm
by Anonymous User
mr.hands wrote:How many other threads have to tagged encouraging people to see this thread?
That's called good marketing. Another thing ppl with my pedigree should focus on.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:19 pm
by DwightSchruteFarms
Anonymous User wrote:
DwightSchruteFarms wrote:This title actually made me LOL.

Regardless, congrats my friend! Consider yourself incredibly lucky...and this is coming from a fellow low-T2er that landed a biglaw gig with barely above median grades. To say luck was not 90% of the reason would be an absolute lie.
How did you do it? Always looking to give fellow low tiered ppl advice.
One word: networking. I networked my ass off. I talked to every attorney-friend I knew. Get Guerrilla Tactics and give it a brief skim. It has some great tips for interviewing that i thought helped me. Go to these networking events that are not school-sponsored but rather Bar-sponsored. Find common ground on something outside of law and build some sort of rapport.

Def do not give up hope. There are positions out there (although few) that you can fill. It just takes some time to find them.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:20 pm
by Anonymous User
Nova wrote:
Nova wrote:How many places did you apply?

Is the secondary market you work in the same market as your T2?
+how many interviews did you have?

+when did you get hired? (before graduation, before the bar, 9 months out, etc)
I had 5 or 6 firm interviews. One offer. I applied to everything. I got hired 2 mo out.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:20 pm
by mr.hands
Anonymous User wrote:
mr.hands wrote:How many other threads have to tagged encouraging people to see this thread?
That's called good marketing. Another thing ppl with my pedigree should focus on.
Marketing? Really? How much are you being paid every time someone looks at this thread?

Yeah, that's not marketing.

That said, congrats on the job.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:27 pm
by Anonymous User
mr.hands wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
mr.hands wrote:How many other threads have to tagged encouraging people to see this thread?
That's called good marketing. Another thing ppl with my pedigree should focus on.
Marketing? Really? How much are you being paid every time someone looks at this thread?

Yeah, that's not marketing.

That said, congrats on the job.
Its marketing for my new single "bottom of the class now im here"

"ottom of the class now I'm here. Bottom of the class now I'm the only one here. Just think its funny how it goes, now I'm billing 250 per hour when I couldn't get volunteer hired

Bottom of the class now I'm here."

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Any advice for someone who just finished 1L in the dumps (bottom quarter)

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:32 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Any advice for someone who just finished 1L in the dumps (bottom quarter)
Yes, write out a list of everyone you know and ask each of them if they know any lawyers. If any of them do, ask where and if you can meet with this lawyer. If the firm sounds like a place you want to work, offer to work there for nothing and do a good job.

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
mr.hands wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
mr.hands wrote:How many other threads have to tagged encouraging people to see this thread?
That's called good marketing. Another thing ppl with my pedigree should focus on.
Marketing? Really? How much are you being paid every time someone looks at this thread?

Yeah, that's not marketing.

That said, congrats on the job.
Its marketing for my new single "bottom of the class now im here"

"ottom of the class now I'm here. Bottom of the class now I'm the only one here. Just think its funny how it goes, now I'm billing 250 per hour when I couldn't get volunteer hired

Bottom of the class now I'm here."
Just as a reminder to myself I wear every tie i own even when I'm home

Re: Bottom of the class now I'm here (AMA)

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:41 am
by Clearly
You're not marketing a thread, you're cluttering the site.