Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:38 pm
3.64 GPA female. Any realistic chance at V15? Or any chance at all?
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Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:46 pm
Where is Arbiter when you need him
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:55 pm
Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:12 am
Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:12 pm
Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:56 pm
I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:57 pm
Why would you want an anecdote when you literally have the data?Anonymous User wrote:I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:03 pm
The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.Anonymous User wrote:I was hoping upperclassmen might anecdotally know that say DPW may be willing to dip a little lower than say Debevoise or ClearyArbiter213 wrote:Seriously guys, look at the data. That's all we're doing.Anonymous User wrote:Which ones?Lincoln wrote:Not all V15s are created equal. The short answer is yes, but not all of them.
Anonymous User wrote:Where is Arbiter when you need him
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:17 pm
S&C is definitely the most grade-conscious. Gibson also seem to be grades whores.Lincoln wrote:
The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:31 pm
Other than Weil?
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:48 pm
Not sure why you wouldn't just look at the data, not sure how useful anecdotal stories are going to be especially given that GPA policies changed a few years ago. I'd say Weil, Kirkland, and Latham are your best bets in the V15.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:27 pm
Why specify female?
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:59 pm
GDC are definitely grade whores. They are rumored to be the only firm that will no-offer for 2L GPA drops.Arbiter213 wrote:S&C is definitely the most grade-conscious. Gibson also seem to be grades whores.Lincoln wrote:
The low scores in the data from Symplicity aren't that helpful. That person's dad might be the CEO of a client, come highly recommended from someone with caché at the firm, have a PhD in a hard science, or what have you. Pretty much every firm will go below their floor for the right person. But the averages give you a good idea of the firm's general grade-selectivity.
Anecdotally, Weil is probably the least grade-conscious V15, but after Monday's news, I'm not sure that's the most important data point. Cravath, DPW, and S&C are probably the most grade-conscious.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:40 pm
Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:44 pm
She wants to know which firms have hiring partners who are sexist pigs who hire attractive women without looking at their resumes. Duh.mr.hands wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
The answer is all of them.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:31 pm
More like, are females particularly underrepresented at any of those firms and I may have a better chance. I'll take the pig like hiring partners tooLincoln wrote:She wants to know which firms have hiring partners who are sexist pigs who hire attractive women without looking at their resumes. Duh.mr.hands wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Why specify female?
The answer is all of them.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:28 pm
Had my meeting with Lyndsay Bullock so below is my bid list critique it! I originally had DPW and Clearly lower, but Lyndsay said based on my total package ( whatever that means) to put them as 1 and 2.
3.64 GPA
Monday:
1. Cleary (60/40)
2. Latham NY (38)
3. DPW
4. Sidley
5. Ropes
6. Cleary/DPW
7. MoFo
8. Paul Hastings
9. Shearman & Sterling
10. O’Melveny
11. Proskauer
12. Fried Frank
13. Cadwaladar
14. Hughes Hubbard
15. Wilkie Farr
Tuesday:
1. Weil
2. Paul Weiss
3. Jones Day
4. Debevoise
5. White & Case
6. WilmerHale Dc? Nyc?
7. WilmerHale DC? Nyc?
8. Akin Gump
9. Alston & Bird ( Atlanta)
10. Holland & Knight ( Miami)
11. hogan lovells
12. Goodwin
13. Morgan, Lewis
14. Cahill
15. Dechert
16. Reed Smith
Wednesday:
1. K & E
2. Linklaters
3. Milibank
4. Allen & Overy
5. Freshfields
6. King & Spalding
7. Vinson & Elkins
8. Greenburg
9. Pilsbury
3.64 GPA
Monday:
1. Cleary (60/40)
2. Latham NY (38)
3. DPW
4. Sidley
5. Ropes
6. Cleary/DPW
7. MoFo
8. Paul Hastings
9. Shearman & Sterling
10. O’Melveny
11. Proskauer
12. Fried Frank
13. Cadwaladar
14. Hughes Hubbard
15. Wilkie Farr
Tuesday:
1. Weil
2. Paul Weiss
3. Jones Day
4. Debevoise
5. White & Case
6. WilmerHale Dc? Nyc?
7. WilmerHale DC? Nyc?
8. Akin Gump
9. Alston & Bird ( Atlanta)
10. Holland & Knight ( Miami)
11. hogan lovells
12. Goodwin
13. Morgan, Lewis
14. Cahill
15. Dechert
16. Reed Smith
Wednesday:
1. K & E
2. Linklaters
3. Milibank
4. Allen & Overy
5. Freshfields
6. King & Spalding
7. Vinson & Elkins
8. Greenburg
9. Pilsbury
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:06 pm
Unless you're URM or have impressive work experience, your Day 1 and 2 seem way too aggressive. You can take a few shots with more selective firms, but generally I'd consider giving a higher ranking to at least a few firms where you are at, above or closer to the CB average. I'd probably drop firms like Debevoise, DPW, and PW down a few slots, and might drop Ropes altogether.
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:54 pm
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Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:58 pm
Anonymous User wrote:25/M/3.87 GPA. Big CA or big NY preferred. Am I going to get owned bidding mostly competitive and/or CA stuff high?
Day 1
1 Ropes and Gray (CA)
2 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati
3 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher (CA)
4 Latham & Watkins (CA)
5 Paul Hastings (CA)
6 Foley & Lardner LLP
7 O'Melveny & Myers LLP
8 Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton LLP
9 MOFO (NY)
10 Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
Day 2
1 Cravath
2 Skadden
3 Jones Day
4 Cooley LLP
5 Holland & Knight
6 Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
7 Jones Day
8 Paul Weis
9 Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP
10 Clifford Chance US LLP
11 Reed Smith LLP
12 White & Case LLP
13 Alston & Bird LLP
14 Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
Day 3
1 Perkins Coie LLP
2 Linklaters
3 Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
4 Freshfields
5 Kirkland & Ellis LLP
6 Sutherland LLP
7 Allen & Overy
8 Winston & Strawn
9 Bracewell & Giuliani
10 Chadbourne and Parke LLP
11Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
12 Greenberg Traurig LLP
13 Brown Rudnick LLP
14 Kaye Scholer LLP
Make your own bid list thread asshole
Re: Cornell Bidlist
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:02 pm
OK