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Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:25 am
by Anonymous User
Has anyone who did a screener hear back about moving onto the next round?
Does anyone know the typical timeline for hearing back?
I did my screener in mid-December
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:02 am
by Anonymous User
did anyone get contacted by a judge post-grades update?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:00 am
by Anonymous User
I was told that the interviews would be in the next week or so, but that the selections have not been made yet for who will be interviewed (or, if they have been made, they have not told anyone or started the interviews). Not sure if this is specific for my region (PNW).
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:41 pm
by Anonymous User
thanks for that information!
Did you email the coordinators about it or were you sent an email?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Apped December 1st. Screening late Jan. Judge interview this Friday. It's for a CA trial court so I'm disappointed. I'd like some advice as a 1L: do I do this even though it is trial court and I want to become a patent attorney? I was hoping for CA Supreme or Fed, as my screener had.

Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:04 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Apped December 1st. Screening late Jan. Judge interview this Friday. It's for a CA trial court so I'm disappointed. I'd like some advice as a 1L: do I do this even though it is trial court and I want to become a patent attorney? I was hoping for CA Supreme or Fed, as my screener had.

Have you applied to other jobs? Take the interview and see how it goes—you might not get it. However, if you are sure you don't want trial court, I would cancel the interview. Not sure how your school does it, but mine does not allow students to turn down judges if they offer.
Honestly though, I think you would learn a ton in a trial court, and it would be really interesting. I was actually hoping for state trial court because the cases were all over the place, and typically trial judges have the interns do way more work that fed judges. For example, I interviewed with a state trial judge who doesnt have a clerk (can't have one) and his interns write all his opinions and do all the work a clerk would do. I now am doing a fed district court externship, and that judge has 4 clerks so the work left to the interns is much more sparse.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:06 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:thanks for that information!
Did you email the coordinators about it or were you sent an email?
I was sent an email from career services asking me if I was still interested because the JIOP would be sending a list to her this week saying who got an interview.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:41 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Apped December 1st. Screening late Jan. Judge interview this Friday. It's for a CA trial court so I'm disappointed. I'd like some advice as a 1L: do I do this even though it is trial court and I want to become a patent attorney? I was hoping for CA Supreme or Fed, as my screener had.

Have you applied to other jobs? Take the interview and see how it goes—you might not get it. However, if you are sure you don't want trial court, I would cancel the interview. Not sure how your school does it, but mine does not allow students to turn down judges if they offer.
Honestly though, I think you would learn a ton in a trial court, and it would be really interesting. I was actually hoping for state trial court because the cases were all over the place, and typically trial judges have the interns do way more work that fed judges. For example, I interviewed with a state trial judge who doesnt have a clerk (can't have one) and his interns write all his opinions and do all the work a clerk would do. I now am doing a fed district court externship, and that judge has 4 clerks so the work left to the interns is much more sparse.
Thanks for this reply. I do want to learn. As a 1L with no legal connections or legal work experience, I think I will take the interview and the position if I am given one (now I am freaking out that I may not even get one). I guess I was disappointed because the attorney that screened me said that her federal judge was the Chief Judge of Southern California, and that using her name on resumes opened a lot of doors with her. I called the JIOP director and she said that SoCal is very competitive and I should just take what I get. :[ Bah humbug.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:21 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Apped December 1st. Screening late Jan. Judge interview this Friday. It's for a CA trial court so I'm disappointed. I'd like some advice as a 1L: do I do this even though it is trial court and I want to become a patent attorney? I was hoping for CA Supreme or Fed, as my screener had.

Have you applied to other jobs? Take the interview and see how it goes—you might not get it. However, if you are sure you don't want trial court, I would cancel the interview. Not sure how your school does it, but mine does not allow students to turn down judges if they offer.
Honestly though, I think you would learn a ton in a trial court, and it would be really interesting. I was actually hoping for state trial court because the cases were all over the place, and typically trial judges have the interns do way more work that fed judges. For example, I interviewed with a state trial judge who doesnt have a clerk (can't have one) and his interns write all his opinions and do all the work a clerk would do. I now am doing a fed district court externship, and that judge has 4 clerks so the work left to the interns is much more sparse.
Thanks for this reply. I do want to learn. As a 1L with no legal connections or legal work experience, I think I will take the interview and the position if I am given one (now I am freaking out that I may not even get one). I guess I was disappointed because the attorney that screened me said that her federal judge was the Chief Judge of Southern California, and that using her name on resumes opened a lot of doors with her. I called the JIOP director and she said that SoCal is very competitive and I should just take what I get. :[ Bah humbug.
Well, I had the interview with the judge yesterday. I didn't get the offer on the spot. I have to wait a week. I don't think she liked me very much so I feel silly about being nitpicky now. Anyone else have any progress?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:48 pm
by Anonymous User
24 out of 200 positions filled. Anyone have some experiences or progress to share?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:22 am
by Anonymous User
Been in judicial review since Feb. 4...Have not been contacted by a judge yet...
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:44 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Been in judicial review since Feb. 4...Have not been contacted by a judge yet...
how do you know you're under judicial review? Did you receive an email? If I didn't get one, think it's safe to presume I didn't move onto the next round?
also, do you mind sharing the general region?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:07 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Been in judicial review since Feb. 4...Have not been contacted by a judge yet...
how do you know you're under judicial review? Did you receive an email? If I didn't get one, think it's safe to presume I didn't move onto the next round?
also, do you mind sharing the general region?
Received an e-mail saying that I had made in onto the judicial review round..and my region is California..
Also spoke w/ gail howard, the director, and she said there are roughly 700 applicants, 300 make it to judicial review for the 200 spots
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:21 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Been in judicial review since Feb. 4...Have not been contacted by a judge yet...
how do you know you're under judicial review? Did you receive an email? If I didn't get one, think it's safe to presume I didn't move onto the next round?
also, do you mind sharing the general region?
Received an e-mail saying that I had made in onto the judicial review round..and my region is California..
Also spoke w/ gail howard, the director, and she said there are roughly 700 applicants, 300 make it to judicial review for the 200 spots
Thanks for the information. I'm in the Southern California region. Been in judicial review since 2/1, which is when I got the e-mail from Gail Howard. I have heard from 1 judge. This is nerve-wracking. Let's keep this thread updated with any applicant progress! It'd be nice to hear that people are getting interviews and/or positions.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:25 pm
by Anonymous User
I applied January 3rd and have not heard anything about a Screening Interview even. (Applied to Southern CA).
Anyone else in this same position?
Also, did anyone on here apply for the MABA Judicial Extern Program? Haven't heard anything from then either.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:23 pm
by Anonymous User
bump
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:56 pm
by tsk123
Spoke to Gail. 1/3 positions filled.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:01 pm
by Anonymous User
tsk123 wrote:Spoke to Gail. 1/3 positions filled.
oh dang
when do we hold onto hope until?
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:18 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:tsk123 wrote:Spoke to Gail. 1/3 positions filled.
oh dang
when do we hold onto hope until?
I don't know. I'm still hanging on...
I was wondering, if anyone has already been interviewed my a judge, did you get an e-mail from the judge saying you didn't get the position if you did not get the position? My judge said she would let me know what her decision was last Friday but I haven't gotten such an e-mail yet? I know it's not uncommon for an employer to not bother responding if you didn't get one, would a judge in the legal profession do the same?
Edit: Kind of want to e-mail asking JIOP what the deal is but idk.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:tsk123 wrote:Spoke to Gail. 1/3 positions filled.
oh dang
when do we hold onto hope until?
I don't know. I'm still hanging on...
I was wondering, if anyone has already been interviewed my a judge, did you get an e-mail from the judge saying you didn't get the position if you did not get the position? My judge said she would let me know what her decision was last Friday but I haven't gotten such an e-mail yet? I know it's not uncommon for an employer to not bother responding if you didn't get one, would a judge in the legal profession do the same?
Edit: Kind of want to e-mail asking JIOP what the deal is but idk.
I've always received some kind of an answer from a judge ... though the rejections usually came awhile after the date they said they'd notify me by
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:56 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:tsk123 wrote:Spoke to Gail. 1/3 positions filled.
oh dang
when do we hold onto hope until?
I don't know. I'm still hanging on...
I was wondering, if anyone has already been interviewed my a judge, did you get an e-mail from the judge saying you didn't get the position if you did not get the position? My judge said she would let me know what her decision was last Friday but I haven't gotten such an e-mail yet? I know it's not uncommon for an employer to not bother responding if you didn't get one, would a judge in the legal profession do the same?
Edit: Kind of want to e-mail asking JIOP what the deal is but idk.
I've always received some kind of an answer from a judge ... though the rejections usually came awhile after the date they said they'd notify me by
Sigh. Yeah, I didn't get good vibes after the interview so I knew I wouldn't get it but I just wanted the confirmation so my sad soul can rest in peace.

Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:59 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:Anonymous User wrote:
I don't know. I'm still hanging on...
I was wondering, if anyone has already been interviewed my a judge, did you get an e-mail from the judge saying you didn't get the position if you did not get the position? My judge said she would let me know what her decision was last Friday but I haven't gotten such an e-mail yet? I know it's not uncommon for an employer to not bother responding if you didn't get one, would a judge in the legal profession do the same?
Edit: Kind of want to e-mail asking JIOP what the deal is but idk.
I've always received some kind of an answer from a judge ... though the rejections usually came awhile after the date they said they'd notify me by
Sigh. Yeah, I didn't get good vibes after the interview so I knew I wouldn't get it but I just wanted the confirmation so my sad soul can rest in peace.

Sorry, buddy. There are lots of other internships out there so dont get too disappointed. At least it was good interview practice
If you really want experience working for a judge, consider a fall/spring externship
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:35 pm
by Anonymous User
Confirming that Ms. Howard said 1/3 positions filled out of the 200.
Is 200 for the whole nation? I'm apping for the CA region.
Someone on TLS said that 300 go into judicial review. So, I was hoping my odds were okay if it truly is 200/300... but nothing yet.
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:39 pm
by Anonymous User
it seems like most people here (including me) applied for CA externships, which are prob very limited in number ... Does not bode well for me!
Re: Judicial Internship Opportunity Program (JIOP)
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:04 am
by Anonymous User
anyone heard from any bay area judges? gail said there are around 15-20 spots for this region