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2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:45 pm
by augusta1985
The application for 2013 PMF is now active. Anyone taken this year's assessment? Any current PMFs on here that can shed some light on the program?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:27 pm
by jbarl1
Tagging this thread. Planning to complete the application sometime this weekend when I have a decent block of time to dedicate.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:33 pm
by Anonymous User
can you close the assessment and come back or does it have to be done all at once?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:36 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:can you close the assessment and come back or does it have to be done all at once?
You can close it and come back; you have unlimited time to complete it (as long as you do so before the deadline, of course). I took a look at it last night but realized I didn't have the brainpower/energy to actually do it then.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:45 pm
by Anonymous User
The assessment appears to be the same "scenario-based reasoning" exam that was given last year.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:51 pm
by arodtoo
How long does the test take?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:25 am
by jbarl1
I finished the assessment yesterday. The two online portions took me about an hour total, while the essays took me about another hour.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:01 pm
by arodtoo
Do you have to complete it all at one time time? Or can you do some and then come back to it?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:18 pm
by jbarl1
You can do some and come back, but they recommend doing it all at once. It really isn't bad at all - it's not actually a "test" in that there aren't actually right answers. It's a personality assessment.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:53 pm
by Anonymous User
jbarl1 wrote:You can do some and come back, but they recommend doing it all at once. It really isn't bad at all - it's not actually a "test" in that there aren't actually right answers. It's a personality assessment.
this just means that there are right answers but it's entirely unclear what they are.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:16 pm
by Anonymous User
Does anyone know when they let people know if they have qualified for the in-person assessment?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:25 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know when they let people know if they have qualified for the in-person assessment?
It's on their website: http://www.pmf.gov/becomeapmf/index.aspx, under Overview and Timeline:
Mid-December 2012 -
Applicants notified of eligibility
Semi-Finalists selected and notified
Semi-Finalists start scheduling their in-person assessment

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:28 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know when they let people know if they have qualified for the in-person assessment?
It's on their website: http://www.pmf.gov/becomeapmf/index.aspx, under Overview and Timeline:
Mid-December 2012 -
Applicants notified of eligibility
Semi-Finalists selected and notified
Semi-Finalists start scheduling their in-person assessment

Though this might get pushed back a little bit because the application date is now due on 11/26, instead of the 11/19.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know when they let people know if they have qualified for the in-person assessment?
It's on their website: http://www.pmf.gov/becomeapmf/index.aspx, under Overview and Timeline:
Mid-December 2012 -
Applicants notified of eligibility
Semi-Finalists selected and notified
Semi-Finalists start scheduling their in-person assessment
Though this might get pushed back a little bit because the application date is now due on 11/26, instead of the 11/19.
Well, the deadline online has been updated to 11/26, so presumably they didn't feel the need to also change this part of the timeline. Plus, "mid-December" is pretty vague to start with...

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:49 pm
by dudders
anyone heard anything yet?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:59 pm
by Anonymous User
dudders wrote:anyone heard anything yet?
Nothing here yet. I thought I read somewhere that we receive an e-mail notifying us of the semi-finalists? I could be wrong though. In any event, I'm thinking more likely next week.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:44 pm
by Anonymous User
FWIW, my career services person told me that they move notoriously slow and that especially with the week extension, she wouldn't expect us to hear anything until Jan. at the earliest. But she has been wrong before, so who knows.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, my career services person told me that they move notoriously slow and that especially with the week extension, she wouldn't expect us to hear anything until Jan. at the earliest. But she has been wrong before, so who knows.
Just read on PMF's Facebook page that there were more than 10,000 applicants this year. Crazy. Probably will take until January.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:03 pm
by xcountryjunkie
10,000 is all? Last year there were ~9,000 while operating under the rule that only the most recent graduating class could apply. This year they opened it up from the last (one) year to the last three years, so I would have expected the number to rise by quite a bit more than that!

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:26 pm
by Anonymous User
From the FAQ:
Over the years, the PMF Program has seen an increase in the number of applicants. Over the past few years, the number of applicants has been approximately 9,000 annually, and the number of Finalists has been approximately 750. Historical data shows applicants have averaged a 1 in 10 chance of becoming a PMF; approximately 60% of Finalists obtain appointments as Fellows. Now with expanded eligibility from the Pathways Programs regulations, we project the number of applications to increase. Please note this is a highly competitive program.
Semifinalists #s last year was around 1200; 628 finalists.

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:58 pm
by Anonymous User
Has anyone heard anything? Less than an hour ago the PMF Facebook page posted the following:

"Drumroll please...the PMF Program Office will email all c/o 2013 PMF Applicants shortly regarding their status. Applicants must log-in to the PMF Application System using the link below to determine whether or not they were selected as a c/o 2013 PMF Semi-Finalist. Note: The Application System may require users to reset their password as a security precaution. Thanks for your interest in the PMF Program--we wish each of you the very best in your career endeavors. -PMF Program Office"

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:02 pm
by cookiebug
They changed the announcement on the facebook page to say people will be notified "this week."

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:06 pm
by Anonymous User
cookiebug wrote:They changed the announcement on the facebook page to say people will be notified "this week."
Ugh, yes. This is going to be a long week. Best of luck to everyone though!

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:24 pm
by Anonymous User
Did anyone hear anything today?

Re: 2013 Presidential Management Fellows (PMF)

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone hear anything today?
Not yet :(