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Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:28 pm
by Anonymous User
Done all my callbacks (5) with the most recent being 2 weeks ago. No offers or rejections but a few firms have called/emailed to let me know that I am still under review/asking if I have other plans yet. Is this a good sign? What does this mean? Going crazy over here. Thanks.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:30 pm
by ryanmot
Anonymous User wrote:Done all my callbacks (5) with the most recent being 2 weeks ago. No offers or rejections but a few firms have called/emailed to let me know that I am still under review/asking if I have other plans yet. Is this a good sign? What does this mean? Going crazy over here. Thanks.
Which region?

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:31 pm
by Anonymous User
Maybe still. Probably a tough choice for them and they want to see if anyone will eliminate themselves to make their job easier.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:31 pm
by IAFG
No one knows. You could get dinged everywhere. I could tell you to just relax and wait, but if you do end up getting dinged everywhere, that's not what you'll wish you'd done.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:32 pm
by Anonymous User
ryanmot wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Done all my callbacks (5) with the most recent being 2 weeks ago. No offers or rejections but a few firms have called/emailed to let me know that I am still under review/asking if I have other plans yet. Is this a good sign? What does this mean? Going crazy over here. Thanks.
Which region?
OP here. NYC.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:34 pm
by Anonymous User
IAFG wrote:No one knows. You could get dinged everywhere. I could tell you to just relax and wait, but if you do end up getting dinged everywhere, that's not what you'll wish you'd done.
I know nobody knows. I haven't been relaxing and waiting I have been mass-mailing like crazy. Just weird that firms keep calling me to tell me that I'm basically on hold.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:35 pm
by IAFG
Anonymous User wrote:
IAFG wrote:No one knows. You could get dinged everywhere. I could tell you to just relax and wait, but if you do end up getting dinged everywhere, that's not what you'll wish you'd done.
I know nobody knows. I haven't been relaxing and waiting I have been mass-mailing like crazy. Just weird that firms keep calling me to tell me that I'm basically on hold.
They're just being proactive and keeping tabs on their wait list. I know it's stressful to be in limbo. Try to distract yourself.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:38 pm
by ryanmot
Anonymous User wrote:
ryanmot wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Done all my callbacks (5) with the most recent being 2 weeks ago. No offers or rejections but a few firms have called/emailed to let me know that I am still under review/asking if I have other plans yet. Is this a good sign? What does this mean? Going crazy over here. Thanks.
Which region?
OP here. NYC.
You're probably on a lot of waitlist/holds and your fate will be determined by other law student's choices, or you've got a bunch of firms that don't reject very quickly. Either way, start hustling and mass mailing. Start hitting up NJ firms as well and any other places. Best of luck; don't look back a year from now and wish you did more. You never know which firm will bite and give you a shot.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:41 pm
by clintonius
OP, would you PM me?

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:45 pm
by ca$hmoney69
IAFG wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
IAFG wrote: Try to distract yourself.
Get drunk...

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:45 pm
by Anonymous User
ryanmot wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
ryanmot wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
You're probably on a lot of waitlist/holds and your fate will be determined by other law student's choices, or you've got a bunch of firms that don't reject very quickly. Either way, start hustling and mass mailing. Start hitting up NJ firms as well and any other places. Best of luck; don't look back a year from now and wish you did more. You never know which firm will bite and give you a shot.
I'm doing all this. Have a few screeners set up for this week through mass-mailing. Can't figure out what i'm doing wrong though. Credentials are good. Why do I keep getting put on hold. Thinking its because of my non-top 14 school or maybe my boring personality.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:45 pm
by 09042014
I doubt it.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:49 pm
by Anonymous User
Desert Fox wrote:I doubt it.
OP here. I agree with you.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:50 pm
by 09042014
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I doubt it.
OP here. I agree with you.
Keep gunning mass mailng because your life depends on it. You might get lucky, but you are clearly second choice at these firms, and OCI wasn't all that great.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:36 pm
by Bruin57
I got 2 voicemails from the same firm updating me that they still haven't met and I'm still under consideration. A week later I received an offer. My 2 rejections after callbacks I never heard from them till they rejected me. It's definitely not a bad sign they are contacting you. It shows they are at least still interested or they would have just sent you a rejection

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:43 pm
by Anonymous User
Bruin57 wrote:I got 2 voicemails from the same firm updating me that they still haven't met and I'm still under consideration. A week later I received an offer. My 2 rejections after callbacks I never heard from them till they rejected me. It's definitely not a bad sign they are contacting you. It shows they are at least still interested or they would have just sent you a rejection
Good to hear. I figured (hoped) this was the case but wish this would all just be over.

Edit: -OP

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:22 pm
by bigredforlaw
Is it me or are more and more big NY firms keeping applicants on "hold" this year? I've been on hold post-screener and post-CB. I didn't bother to follow up with the post-screener firms b/c I liked them less anyways.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:36 pm
by Anonymous User
I'm in the same boat except in LA.

I called the firm after two weeks and they told me I was still under consideration. A couple days later they email me and tell me they're excited about working with me but their class size is relatively small...pretty clear I'm on a waitlist. They gave me a 1-2 week timeline from the date of the email so I'm just waiting now.

Mass mailed firms and nothing so far...most aren't looking to hire or at least not yet. I'm pretty much screwed if this doesn't come through.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:49 pm
by goodolgil
bigredforlaw wrote:Is it me or are more and more big NY firms keeping applicants on "hold" this year? I've been on hold post-screener and post-CB. I didn't bother to follow up with the post-screener firms b/c I liked them less anyways.


Anecdotally, have heard some big firms are trying to keep their amount of open offers down to protect against too high a yield. Many firms last year seemed to receive more acceptances than they had planned for (DPW and Dechert to name two). This means that more offers will go out if enough offers are turned down.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:57 am
by Anonymous User
Luckily, I have one offer. But, I was in your situation a few days ago. Do not worry. One day, near future, you will check your email or mail to find an offer, and everything will be great. It is really rare to hear 5 callbacks with NO offers....however, it happens.

In general, I have noticed a lot of firms have put me in holding patterns. I get emails from HR every other day saying "we are still considering your package," which completely CRACKS me up. Things are JUST tight. Law firms do not want an unexpected high yield rate.

IT sucks......I feel for ya !

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:58 am
by ndirish2010
Had 9 callbacks last year at OCI and no offers. So it does happen. I would guess that you'll get one though. Good luck!

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:59 pm
by Anonymous User
ndirish2010 wrote:Had 9 callbacks last year at OCI and no offers. So it does happen. I would guess that you'll get one though. Good luck!
This terrifies me. I'm heading down a similar path. Did everything turn out okay with your job search?

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:44 pm
by IrwinM.Fletcher
Anonymous User wrote: It is really rare to hear 5 callbacks with NO offers
I mean, not really...esp if you didn't target dat NYC.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:19 pm
by LawIdiot86
Five callbacks are very easy to go 0/5, especially if the firms are not known for a high cb/offer rate (thinking of S&C's alleged ~90% rate here). Also, there is some correlation to rejection in that it's very easy to mess up the same thing with multiple callbacks (not doing the right amount of research on interviewers, expressing interest in a practice area no one is hiring for, having the same mistake on your updated resume, being "awkward," etc.), so once someone is 0/4 with one outstanding, going to 0/5 with a peer firm is rather likely.

Re: Will I get an offer?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:48 pm
by ndirish2010
Anonymous User wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:Had 9 callbacks last year at OCI and no offers. So it does happen. I would guess that you'll get one though. Good luck!
This terrifies me. I'm heading down a similar path. Did everything turn out okay with your job search?
Worked for state AG last summer (minimally paid), got offer to go back permanently, but doing fed clerkship instead. So, yes, so far it's worked out.