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Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:32 pm
by Anonymous User
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:38 pm
by Anonymous User
People have reported phone calls both for rejections and on-hold notifications, as well as offers. I think offers are much more common, but aren't the only possibility. Post tomorrow and update us!

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:40 pm
by NinerFan
Generally, no, they don't call to reject, but as I'm sure people will attest, it does happen.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:43 pm
by beachbum
Good probability its an offer, but don't count on it until you actually have the offer.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:45 pm
by quakpond
I feel like they usually don't call for rejections. I'm thinking because people might break down over the phone and that would be awkward.

Good luck!

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:47 pm
by vanwinkle
Based on what I've seen and heard, phone-call rejections occur but are the exception, not the rule.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:50 pm
by dabbadon8
First, why can't you return the call? If it's biglaw they definitely should still be in. Second, I think you may be getting your hopes up b/c it seems odd that you'd get a call from a firm that would just not leave a message. I suppose you could look up the number...

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:52 pm
by Anonymous User
Thanks all!

And I know for sure who it is, I know the number. But I do think it's odd not to leave a message, which is why I'm a little worried!

Oh and I can't call cause I'm on a bus haha, guess I could but it's really loud and I'll try to be patient.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:52 pm
by HeavenWood
NinerFan wrote:Generally, no, they don't call to reject, but as I'm sure people will attest, it does happen.
That's about as cruel as it gets.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:05 pm
by Anonymous User
in my experience, if it is an offer they will leave a voicemail though...are you sure the missed call is even from a firm?

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:07 pm
by Anonymous User
Definitely happens... i.e. Orrick calls with rejections.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:09 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:in my experience, if it is an offer they will leave a voicemail though...are you sure the missed call is even from a firm?
That's what I'm worried about! And yes, I'm positive.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:18 pm
by Anonymous User
Definitely weird that they didn't leave a voicemail. Is the # a partner's that you met w/, or recruiting? I'd think it's more likely an offer if it's from the partner.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:23 pm
by badaboom61
I got a rejection call from a big firm. Utter disappointment. They probably wanted to make sure I struck out of the 1L SA hunt with style.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:29 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Definitely weird that they didn't leave a voicemail. Is the # a partner's that you met w/, or recruiting? I'd think it's more likely an offer if it's from the partner.
It's a partner. And thanks for indulging in my speculation, everyone! Haha

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:42 pm
by NewYorkStork
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks
With the same caveat that other people have used here, that I don't want to get your hopes up, I would be feeling optimistic that it is an offer. It's one thing to call someone to reject them, and it is another thing to call to reject someone and refuse to leave a message so that you can "be there" when they eat the rejection.

Also, I don't know how phone rejections go for firms that do them, but I have a hard time believing they pawn the phone rejection duties off on a partner (whereas partners often give the offers to make them more enticing). If anything, I would think it would be the recruiting director.

Keep in mind though that the phone call might be for something lame, like a clarification about your resume or a request for a writing sample. Again, though, given that the vast majority of phone calls from first post-CB are offers (especially from partners), and that only in the offer scenario does not leaving a message kind of make sense, I'm feeling happy for you. Be sure to update us, though!

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:05 pm
by badaboom61
NewYorkStork wrote:
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks

Also, I don't know how phone rejections go for firms that do them, but I have a hard time believing they pawn the phone rejection duties off on a partner (whereas partners often give the offers to make them more enticing). If anything, I would think it would be the recruiting director.
My rejection call experience:

[Get phone call from desired area code]

Phone: "Hello? badaboom? This is XX, I'm the hiring partner with [top choice firm]. I wanted to call you and you say that you're a very impressive candidate, but we had a lot of great candidates and unfortunately we won't be able to offer you a position for the summer."

Me: "ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:31 pm
by jess
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Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:38 pm
by glitched
badaboom61 wrote:
NewYorkStork wrote:
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks

Also, I don't know how phone rejections go for firms that do them, but I have a hard time believing they pawn the phone rejection duties off on a partner (whereas partners often give the offers to make them more enticing). If anything, I would think it would be the recruiting director.
My rejection call experience:

[Get phone call from desired area code]

Phone: "Hello? badaboom? This is XX, I'm the hiring partner with [top choice firm]. I wanted to call you and you say that you're a very impressive candidate, but we had a lot of great candidates and unfortunately we won't be able to offer you a position for the summer."

Me: "ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."
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Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:08 pm
by Anonymous User
I'd just like to add, to the person who has been calling me from a blocked number and not leaving messages over the past week: if I find you, I will hurt you.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:11 pm
by Anonymous User
Not OP. This whole missed call situation happened to me too. When I was in class, I got a call from the firm that I knew what meeting that day to review my file. They left a two second empty voicemail. When I redialed later, it took me to the front desk...not helpful. So I go to my next class, and again I get a voicemail from the same general number from the firm with a 2-second empty voicemail.

I tried calling the recruiting coordinator and her assistant...no answer.

At this point, I sent the recruiting coordinator informing her that I have been receiving these phone calls from the firm but there was no message. I told her I wanted to let her know in case it concerned my application and I needed to get in touch with them. She got back to me immediately saying to call this attorney and gave me the number.

Offer.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:15 pm
by Anonymous User
badaboom61 wrote:
NewYorkStork wrote:
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks

Also, I don't know how phone rejections go for firms that do them, but I have a hard time believing they pawn the phone rejection duties off on a partner (whereas partners often give the offers to make them more enticing). If anything, I would think it would be the recruiting director.
My rejection call experience:

[Get phone call from desired area code]

Phone: "Hello? badaboom? This is XX, I'm the hiring partner with [top choice firm]. I wanted to call you and you say that you're a very impressive candidate, but we had a lot of great candidates and unfortunately we won't be able to offer you a position for the summer."

Me: "ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."
I got a VM from a partner at one of my top choices telling me to call him back. Rejection. Ouch.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:30 am
by TTRansfer
Anonymous User wrote:
badaboom61 wrote:
NewYorkStork wrote:
Quick question- Do firms ever call to reject you? Missed a call I likely can't return until tomorrow and don't wanna get my hopes up! They didn't leave a message.

Thanks

Also, I don't know how phone rejections go for firms that do them, but I have a hard time believing they pawn the phone rejection duties off on a partner (whereas partners often give the offers to make them more enticing). If anything, I would think it would be the recruiting director.
My rejection call experience:

[Get phone call from desired area code]

Phone: "Hello? badaboom? This is XX, I'm the hiring partner with [top choice firm]. I wanted to call you and you say that you're a very impressive candidate, but we had a lot of great candidates and unfortunately we won't be able to offer you a position for the summer."

Me: "ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu..."
I got a VM from a partner at one of my top choices telling me to call him back. Rejection. Ouch.
God that is brutal.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:30 am
by Anonymous User
Stepped out of the shower last year, missed call from #1 firm, 2+ minute voicemail. Rejected, ending up striking out. Top that.

Re: Missed call

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:33 am
by Anonymous User
I hate firms that call you for rejection. At least send an email first as a heads up. And then if you really liked a candidate call him/her.