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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:22 pm

Has anyone seen movement in DC?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:28 pm

Anyone else interested in Litigation? I’m switching markets to NY because of my fiancé’s work and I’m open to opportunities at smaller firms. I’ve just heard mixed things regarding litigation. I know things have basically grinded to a halt during Covid but I’ve spoken to people who expect a flood of work later this year once we’re hopefully past it all.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:25 am

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People who’ve gotten biglaw offers as 3Ls - do offers come shortly after callbacks? Or is everything slower for 3Ls
When I traded up this year, I skipped screeners and went straight to CBs. Offers took longer to arrive (~2-3 weeks) than in 2L OCI.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by lawschoolgogo » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:28 am

Reached out to many many many attorneys from firms at different levels, in-house attorneys, and etc. 3L from T14 is still on this boat of looking for opportunities, any advice would be appreicated!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:44 pm

Popping in here to say that all these rejection emails and ghosting really sucks and is not great at all.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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Popping in here to say that all these rejection emails and ghosting really sucks and is not great at all.
Yeah my ability to focus on schoolwork has been horrible. All I can do is search for jobs online.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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Anonymous User wrote:
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People who’ve gotten biglaw offers as 3Ls - do offers come shortly after callbacks? Or is everything slower for 3Ls
3L here, T14, top 30%, just received an offer from a V10 two days after my callback.
To other desperate 3L’s— don’t give up hope. Total time from screener to offer was 10 days. Transactional groups are desperate for warm bodies right now, and I suspect we’ll see more first-year associate positions open up throughout the coming months.
Good luck to all!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:40 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:24 pm
People who’ve gotten biglaw offers as 3Ls - do offers come shortly after callbacks? Or is everything slower for 3Ls
3L here, T14, top 30%, just received an offer from a V10 two days after my callback.
To other desperate 3L’s— don’t give up hope. Total time from screener to offer was 10 days. Transactional groups are desperate for warm bodies right now, and I suspect we’ll see more first-year associate positions open up throughout the coming months.
Good luck to all!
Congrats on the offer! Quick question, since I have seen others comment that offers have been coming shortly after callbacks, how long was the delay between screener to callback? I am top 25% at T20 and had a screener late last week, but radio silence since then. It seemed promising after the interviewer commented on how busy they were.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:40 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:24 pm
People who’ve gotten biglaw offers as 3Ls - do offers come shortly after callbacks? Or is everything slower for 3Ls
3L here, T14, top 30%, just received an offer from a V10 two days after my callback.
To other desperate 3L’s— don’t give up hope. Total time from screener to offer was 10 days. Transactional groups are desperate for warm bodies right now, and I suspect we’ll see more first-year associate positions open up throughout the coming months.
Good luck to all!
Congrats! Do you mind PM'ing me the firm and city?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by alhookem2020 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:02 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:40 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:24 pm
People who’ve gotten biglaw offers as 3Ls - do offers come shortly after callbacks? Or is everything slower for 3Ls
3L here, T14, top 30%, just received an offer from a V10 two days after my callback.
To other desperate 3L’s— don’t give up hope. Total time from screener to offer was 10 days. Transactional groups are desperate for warm bodies right now, and I suspect we’ll see more first-year associate positions open up throughout the coming months.
Good luck to all!
Congrats on the offer! Quick question, since I have seen others comment that offers have been coming shortly after callbacks, how long was the delay between screener to callback? I am top 25% at T20 and had a screener late last week, but radio silence since then. It seemed promising after the interviewer commented on how busy they were.
Sounds like 8 days since he said 10 days total and two days between CB and offer.
Do you mind PM'ing me the firm and/or city of your screener?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

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alhookem2020 wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:32 am
Sounds like 8 days since he said 10 days total and two days between CB and offer.
Do you mind PM'ing me the firm and/or city of your screener?
Yikes, not a good sign for my critical reading skills. Thanks for pointing that out though. PM'd.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by alhookem2020 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:41 am
alhookem2020 wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:32 am
Sounds like 8 days since he said 10 days total and two days between CB and offer.
Do you mind PM'ing me the firm and/or city of your screener?
Yikes, not a good sign for my critical reading skills. Thanks for pointing that out though. PM'd.
Haha, if you've been staring at your computer screen as much as I have been lately firing out applications and emails, I don't blame you for the oversight

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:49 pm

Any firms in Chicago recruiting? Or other non east coast markets?

Should I just mass mail to the nalp contact for all of the firms now? Tbh I've kind of given up hope for biglaw and feel kind of rusty, please be kind.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:53 pm

To those who have been getting biglaw interviews, did you get these interviews through postings on the firm's website, your school's job board, cold-emails to attorney/HR, or other?

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Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:30 pm

email partners. HR never works.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:23 pm

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When I traded up this year, I skipped screeners and went straight to CBs. Offers took longer to arrive (~2-3 weeks) than in 2L OCI.
Super interesting. Has anyone else had this experience? 3L offers more than a week after CB?

I'm used to 2L OCI where it's over after a day or so . . . .

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:22 pm

Just to chime in, the 3L screeners I've gotten (all Texas) have all three come from cold-emailing recruiters directly. That is not to say emailing partners would not also work, but thought I'd mention I am having some success on that front.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:36 pm

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Just to chime in, the 3L screeners I've gotten (all Texas) have all three come from cold-emailing recruiters directly. That is not to say emailing partners would not also work, but thought I'd mention I am having some success on that front.
Hi, would you mind pm'ing which city in Texas or which firms? I have had a callback at one firm and another firm in Chicago, but would love to know if there are other ones in the market that I am considering.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:05 pm

Just echoing what everyone else here is saying. Transactional/especially Capital Markets is crazy busy right now dealing with the SPAC craze as well as a lot of dry powder in private equity. If you have any financial background or could talk about Securities Regulation classes etc..., I would recommend just mass targeting firms in NYC or other Cap Markets/Transactional markets. For example, 3L positions that I have seen listed recently:

Sidley - General Corporate (NYC)
Wilmer Hale - Corporate (DC)
Kirkland - Chicago (various practice groups have had job postings up for the past couple months)

Also, the SEC's Division of Corp. Finance is hiring for an entry level attorney for a disclosure review program which is pretty atypical and my guess likely from the hot market and SPAC dare I say bubble.

Basically, firms are realizing they need bodies in these groups and if you have other legal financial, transactional experience for your 1L/2L summer or externship or you are smart and have BigLaw #'s to begin with, I would say now is the time to start mass mailing as many firms as you can that have large groups in these practice areas.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:31 pm

Has anyone got offer from the 3L OCI this year, not from mass mailing/networking?

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:14 am

Has anybody heard from Cooley recently? Had an interview for a 3L position with them last week, recruiting said I should hear by Friday but was a little wishy-washy on that. Really want this offer lol

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:58 am

I finally made it out of the vale. Accepted an offer at a midsized firm in a secondary market starting at $120K. I'm happy to be employed and tired of holding out. Good luck to everyone out there! I'm sure you'll all find what you're looking for.

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:21 pm

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Has anybody heard from Cooley recently? Had an interview for a 3L position with them last week, recruiting said I should hear by Friday but was a little wishy-washy on that. Really want this offer lol
Meanwhile Cooley told me last week that they don't have any openings for a first-year position... though I asked about a specific group, and their response appeared to be more general. Good luck, hope you get the offer!

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:03 pm

Has anyone heard anything from Goodwin lately? Had an interview with them a while ago and then radio silence

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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:28 pm

Does anyone have any perspective on what the timeline from callback to offers looks like for 3L offers at this stage?

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