UChicago OCI 2012 Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:36 pm

OCI is over. Long live OCI!

Please post in this thread when you get a callback, so that people know a firm has started giving callbacks. This should include the firm name, the office (e.g. LA, DC) and the method of notification (phone call, email).

Also, please post in this thread when you're dinged so people know that's happening. Include the same info as above.

Also, please post if invites for a reception or dinner are given.

The following is a list of firms that, according to posters in this thread, have notified at least one person of a callback. It is in chronological order.
SullCrom NY
Latham NY (never forget (LinkRemoved))
Latham Chicago (never forget (LinkRemoved))
Stroock NY
Sheppard NY
Baker McKenzie (Chicago) email
Jones Day NY
King & Spalding CB (Atlanta)
Wachtell
Shearmen NYC email
Steptoe DC
Sidley DC
Davis Polk NY email
Jones Day Chicago
Debevoise
Latham LA
Latham SF
MoFo LA
MoFo SF
Jones Day DC
Sidley Chicago
K&L Gates DC
ropes & gray ny call
McDermott
Ropes & Gray DC by phone
susman godfrey
Fried Frank NY
Sidley NY
Mayer brown Chicago call
Neil Gerber call
Cleary DC CB by email.
Cleary NYC
Pattishall McAuliffe (Chicago) CB via email
Chapman Cutler Chicago CB
Fried frank NY
Weil NY
Fried frank DC
White and case DC
Gunderson email
Baker botts DC
Boies NY LITIGATION
Milbank
Susman all offices
Foley Lardner Milwaukee call
Fenwick by phone
Covington DC
K&L Gates Seattle
Munger by phone
McGuire Woods
SNR Denton
WilmerHale NYC
Paul Hastings chi cb
schiff chicago call
WilmerHale Boston
Dechert
Freshfields DC
Vedder Price Chicago
Morgan Lewis
Paul Hastings LA CB by phone
Boies Schiller Corporate
Sidley LA
Kirkland & Ellis NYC
Allen & Ovary DC
Cooley Seattle phone
V&E DC
Skadden Chicago
Paul, Weiss Cb
Pillsbury DC
Kirkland and Ellis DC
AZA
Simpson Thacher NYC phone
Jenner & Block chi
Cravath
Winston
Kirkland Chicago
Katten NYC by phone
Skadden NYC phone
Orrick NYC CB
Wilson Sonsini PA call
Baker Hostetler DC
simpson nyc cb call
Curtis Mallet CB
Winston Chicago
O'Melveny Myers DC by phone
Simpson Thacher DC
Mayer Brown NYC
Perkins Coie (Portland?)
Edwards wildman chi
Barack Ferrazzano
Goodwin LA

Dinners/Receptions:
Munger Tolles
Paul Weiss
Susman
Gibson Dunn dinner
Irell dinner
Fulbright
Jenner Chicago dinner

Dings
DPW Menlo Park via email
baker mckenzie via email
Fried frank NY snail mail
Baker & Hostetler Houston snail-mail ding.
Hughes Hubbard NY snail mail
Strook ding email
Cleary DC email ding
hogan lovells NYC E-Mail Ding
White and case DC
Ropes and Gray DC and NY
Debevoise NY
Sheppard Mullin
King and Spalding NY
Latham DC (never forget)
Milbank email
Edelson McGuire ding via email
Sidley DC
Chapman and Cutler Chicago email
Crowell & Mooring DC email
K&L Gates Chicago email
MoFo LA, Denver, NYC
Jones Day Chicago
Baker Botts Houston email
Jones Day NY
o'melveny LA ding e-mail
mayer brown chicago email
Morgan Lewis ding email
Cadwalder NYC E-Mail
Arnold and porter dc
Foley Chi
Baker Hostetler Orlando
O'Melveny Myers century city
Sidley Chicago snail mail
Wachtell snail mail
Drinker Biddle Chi snail mail
Skadden Chicago snail mail
Neal Gerber Eisenberg Chicago by snail mail
McDermott email ding
katten chicago
quarles & brady chicago snail mail
goldberg kohn snail mail
WilmerHale DC via email
Cravath via email
Simpson Thacher NY
Williams and Connolly snail mail
Susman Godfrey Houston snail mail
Boies NYC corporate snail mail
Proskauer NYC email
Latham Watkins CHI snail mail
Schiff Hardin CHI snail mail
Simpson Thacher DC email
Allen & Ovary DC email
Orrick via Fedex Mail
Kirkland & Ellis DC email
Foley Chicago email
Reed Smith Chicago email
Paul Hastings Chi email
Paul Hastings NY via epost(?)
Wilson Sonsini Seattle email
Irell
Paul Hastings LA
O'Melveny & Myers DC email
K&L Gates Chicago snail mail
Patishall
Dykema Gossett
mcguirewoods
Gibson Dunn SF
Kirkland Chicago
Sidley NY snail mail
Paul Weiss snail mail
Barack Ferrazzano
dla piper Chicago e-mail
Milbank NY
Foley DC
Katten snail mail
Jones Day snail mail
AZA snail mail

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:39 pm

And here's last year's OCI thread for reference.

skers · Post by **skers** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:15 pm

Good luck dudes.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:08 am

In. Thanks in advance for all the info. Especially Chi/DC

Emma. · Post by **Emma.** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:42 am

TemporarySaint wrote:Good luck dudes.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:30 am

a11 1n · Post by **a11 1n** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:27 pm

Tic-Tag-Toe

Emma. · Post by **Emma.** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I am completely lost with OCI. If you have any tips on my bidlist, I would appreciate it. Ties to socal, only bidding socal/ny to minimize the number of markets (or should i be bidding chicago as well?).

Just above median:

Paul Hastings LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Jones Day (Los Angeles, CA)
Latham & Watkins (Los Angeles, CA)
Paul Weiss Rifkind Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY)
Paul Hastings LLP (New York, NY)
Morrison & Foerster L.L.P. (Los Angeles, CA)
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (New York, NY)
Debevoise & Plimpton (New York, NY)
Sidley Austin LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Sidley Austin LLP (New York, NY)
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (Los Angeles, CA)
Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Orange County, CA)
O'Melveny & Myers LLP (Century City LA, CA)
O'Melveny & Myers LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Orrick Herrington & Sutcliffe L.L.P. (New York, NY)
Goodwin Procter LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Cooley LLP (New York, NY)
Allen & Overy (New York, NY)
Baker & Hostetler LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Hogan Lovells US LLP (New York, NY)
Kirkland & Ellis LLP (New York, NY)
Latham & Watkins (New York, NY)
Mayer Brown LLP (Los Angeles, CA)\
Milbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy LLP (New York, NY)
Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (New York, NY)
Davis Polk & Wardwell (New York, NY)
Mayer Brown LLP (New York, NY)
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (New York, NY)
Holland & Knight LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Holland & Knight LLP (New York, NY)
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (New York, NY)
Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP (New York, NY)
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY)
Ropes & Gray LLP (New York, NY)
Baker & Hostetler LLP (New York, NY)
Jones Day (Irvine, CA)
Jones Day (New York, NY)
K&L Gates (Orange County, CA)
K&L Gates (New York, NY)
King & Spalding LLP (New York, NY)
Morrison & Foerster L.L.P. (New York, NY)
Susman Godfrey LLP (New York, NY)
Vinson & Elkins LLP (New York, NY)]
WilmerHale LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY)
WilmerHale LLP (New York, NY)
Susman Godfrey LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY)
Bryan Cave LLP (Irvine, CA)
Bryan Cave LLP (New York, NY)
Bryan Cave LLP (Santa Monica, CA)
Curtis Mallet-Prevost Colt & Mosle (New York, NY)
Dechert LLP (New York, NY)
Foley & Lardner LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY)
Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP (New York, NY)
Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP (New York, NY)
Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian L.L.P. (New York, NY)
Irell & Manella L.L.P. (Los Angeles, CA)
Irell & Manella L.L.P. (Newport Beach, CA)
Perkins Coie LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (Los Angeles, CA)
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (New York, NY)
Proskauer Rose LLP (New York, NY)
Schiff Hardin LLP (New York, NY)
Shearman & Sterling LLP (New York, NY)
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)

It'd be helpful to know how many interview slots each office has. Also, if you are anonymous, may as well tell us your actual GPA. Bidding is weird, and it shouldn't necessarily be in order of preference. You are just trying to maximize your screening interviews. Do you have any sense of how many people in your class are bidding SoCal?

As for NY v. Chi, it'll probably be easier to land NYC.. But if you'd prefer Chi over NY then I'd either pick up Chicago in addition, or drop NY altogether. Don't potentially lock yourself into NY if you don't want to live there.

Without knowing numbers of slots, your list looks OK. I suspect that Susman and Irell might be wasted bids, and people who know more about NYC might be able to suggest other firms to drop. You will generally get interviews with all your top three bids and 7-8 of your top 10, so fill those with firms that are not too selective & have good sized classes.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:31 pm

For those of you who haven't read last year's thread yet: Don't. It'll just give you a heart attack, especially if you are planning to bid Chicago and/or have median grades.

Looking forward to seeing everyone at the orientation half-truth-a-thon.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:08 pm

S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.

Emma. · Post by **Emma.** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.

Same goes for DPW.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:17 pm

Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.
Same goes for DPW.

Any transfer friendly firms? I know Skadden Chicago has some this summer but any others?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.
Same goes for DPW.
Any transfer friendly firms? I know Skadden Chicago has some this summer but any others?

Transfers typically do very well with the traditional biglaw shops (so no MTO, W&C, etc.). The only major firms that appears to be off limits are WLRK and potentially SullCrom. If you want a specific market, I can probably give better info.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:33 pm

If I am specifically targeting the Chicago market, how high up should I put Kirkland and Sidley? Would putting them around 15-16 be too far down to get me an interview? Thanks

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If I am specifically targeting the Chicago market, how high up should I put Kirkland and Sidley? Would putting them around 15-16 be too far down to get me an interview? Thanks

Even though they have a ton of interview slots, 15-16 would be too far down in my opinion (especially if Chicago is your target). I think I put them at 7 and 8 and received slots for both.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:45 pm

Anybody tally up the number of Chicago SA slots? Hopefully it increased relative to last year.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.
Same goes for DPW.
Any transfer friendly firms? I know Skadden Chicago has some this summer but any others?
Transfers typically do very well with the traditional biglaw shops (so no MTO, W&C, etc.). The only major firms that appears to be off limits are WLRK and potentially SullCrom. If you want a specific market, I can probably give better info.

Looking at NYC/Chicago. Coming from a Chicago T2.

Edit: Like many transfers no journal

Emma. · Post by **Emma.** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If I am specifically targeting the Chicago market, how high up should I put Kirkland and Sidley? Would putting them around 15-16 be too far down to get me an interview? Thanks

I would put the one you want more around 5. They both have a ton of interview slots but a large percent of the class will throw bids their way.

JollyGreenGiant · Post by **JollyGreenGiant** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:14 pm

Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If I am specifically targeting the Chicago market, how high up should I put Kirkland and Sidley? Would putting them around 15-16 be too far down to get me an interview? Thanks
I would put the one you want more around 5. They both have a ton of interview slots but a large percent of the class will throw bids their way.

I had a friend who got K&E Chi at bid #20 last year, but I've heard of people missing Sidley at #8 or lower in years past. Those two are also likely to have spots open up from people dropping them prior to OCI.

But I wouldn't screw around too much with those two as they make up a good portion of the Chicago SA positions.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Looking at NYC/Chicago. Coming from a Chicago T2.

Edit: Like many transfers no journal

You'll be good to go for NYC/Chicago (small sample, but transfers found success at OCI with tip-top firms in both markets last year). It's really going to be all about how you sell yourself in interviews. The transfer panel at your orientation will probably talk more with you about this.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:52 pm

These NYC firms (except W&C is DC) are my bids 21-28. Do I need to move them up to higher priority or are these selective enough that most people won't bid? I'm seriously interested in all of these firms. listed the number of interview slots next to them

21 Williams & Connolly 38
22 Cravath 34
23 Simpson Thatcher 52
24 Weil Gotshal Manges 21
25 Wachtell 42
26 Sullivan Cromwell 42
27 Davis Polk Wardell 41
28 Cleary Gottlieb 42

Emma. · Post by **Emma.** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:56 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Looking at NYC/Chicago. Coming from a Chicago T2.

Edit: Like many transfers no journal
You'll be good to go for NYC/Chicago (small sample, but transfers found success at OCI with tip-top firms in both markets last year). It's really going to be all about how you sell yourself in interviews. The transfer panel at your orientation will probably talk more with you about this.

I'm sure you'll do well, but TBF last year's transfers were a special bunch.. E.g. 2 kids who transferred from other T10 schools who both wrote on to LR.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:05 am

Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:S&C is a complete wasted bid if you are hovering around median.
Same goes for DPW.

From last years results, what are the really grade conscious firms in NY?

Wachtell, Cravath, S&C, DPW. Any others? Cleary? Simpson?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:44 am

Emma. wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Looking at NYC/Chicago. Coming from a Chicago T2.

Edit: Like many transfers no journal
You'll be good to go for NYC/Chicago (small sample, but transfers found success at OCI with tip-top firms in both markets last year). It's really going to be all about how you sell yourself in interviews. The transfer panel at your orientation will probably talk more with you about this.
I'm sure you'll do well, but TBF last year's transfers were a special bunch.. E.g. 2 kids who transferred from other T10 schools who both wrote on to LR.

Thank you for thinking we were a special bunch.

Although two write-ons is a rarity, the vast majority of the non-LR transfers did well too. (V5/V10 offers). It also seems like transferring was even more competitive grade-wise this year too from my brief gander at the transfer forum.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:18 pm

Anyone care to critique this bidlist? Around 179, so top 1/3? Have WE, ties to SF/cali. No ties to NY. Available interview slots are listed.

Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Los Angeles, CA) 13
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton (New York, NY) 42
Latham & Watkins (Chicago, IL) 61
Kirkland & Ellis LLP (Chicago, IL) 84
sidley austin llp (Chicago, IL) 84
Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP (Chicago, IL) 84
Paul Weiss Rifkind Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY) 42
Davis Polk & Wardwell (New York, NY) 41
Ropes & Gray LLP (Chicago, IL) 21
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett (New York, NY) 52
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY) 42
Weil Gotshal & Manges LLP (New York, NY) 21
Debevoise & Plimpton (New York, NY) 63
Baker & McKenzie (Chicago, IL) 21
Jenner & Block LLP (Chicago, IL) 63
K&L Gates (Chicago, IL) 21
Cravath Swaine & Moore L.L.P. (New York, NY) 34
Morrison & Foerster LLP (San Francisco, CA) 21
Irell & Manella L.L.P. (Los Angeles, CA) 42
Jones Day (Chicago, IL) 42
mayer brown llp (Chicago, IL) 63
Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP (Chicago, IL) 21
O'Melveny & Myers LLP (Los Angeles, CA) 21
Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP (Oakland, CA) 18
mcguirewoods LLP (Chicago, IL) 21
Fenwick & West L.L.P. (San Francisco, CA) 9
McDermott Will & Emery LLP (Chicago, IL) 63
paul hastings llp (Chicago, IL) 31
schiff hardin llp (Chicago, IL) 45
Wachtell Lipton Rosen & Katz (New York, NY) 42
Allen & Overy (New York, NY) 22
goodwin procter llp (San Francisco, CA) 5
freshfields bruckhaus deringer LLP (New York, NY) 21
Baker & Hostetler LLP (New York, NY) 16
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (San Francisco, CA) 11
Munger Tolles & Olson LLP (Los Angeles, CA) 42
Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson LLP (New York, NY) 42
hogan lovells US LLP (New York, NY) 21
WilmerHale LLP (New York, NY) 21
Winston & Strawn LLP (Chicago, IL) 42
Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP (Chicago, IL - General Practice) 37
King & Spalding LLP (New York, NY) 11
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP (New York, NY) 21
Holland & Knight LLP (Chicago, IL) 21
katten muchin rosenman llp (Chicago, IL) 21
Greenberg Traurig (Chicago, IL) 21
Keker & Van Nest LLP (San Francisco, CA) 21
Foley & Lardner LLP (Chicago, IL) 42
dla piper US LLP (Chicago, IL) 21

Should I drop NY or Cali all together?

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