Should everyone mass mail? Forum

[Anonymous User]

At what point is it safe (or probably safe) to not mass mail and rely on OCI?

[fatduck]

when you don't care about getting a job

[hardcorepawn]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

[Ludo!]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

Mediocre first post trolling

[rad lulz]

when you don't care about getting a job

[hardcorepawn]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

Mediocre first post trolling

I mean you can never 100% guarantee a job but if you are in that position you are most likely going to be getting your job through OCI-- like I said mailing a few apps to firms where you live can always be helpful but OCI is most likely going to take care of you (assuming your school is in a market you want)

[rad lulz]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

Mediocre first post trolling

I mean you can never 100% guarantee a job but if you are in that position you are most likely going to be getting your job through OCI-- like I said mailing a few apps to firms where you live can always be helpful but OCI is most likely going to take care of you (assuming your school is in a market you want)

Spoken like a troll or someone who had NO idea what's going on.

[Ludo!]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

Mediocre first post trolling

I mean you can never 100% guarantee a job but if you are in that position you are most likely going to be getting your job through OCI-- like I said mailing a few apps to firms where you live can always be helpful but OCI is most likely going to take care of you (assuming your school is in a market you want)

Top half? You think the top half of people at T1 schools get jobs through OCI. You've gotta be shitting me. Top half??

[ilovesf]

As long as you are top 1/2 at a top 50 school OCI should be good enough for you. If you are below the median then I would probably go ahead and mail some firms where you are from

Mediocre first post trolling

I mean you can never 100% guarantee a job but if you are in that position you are most likely going to be getting your job through OCI-- like I said mailing a few apps to firms where you live can always be helpful but OCI is most likely going to take care of you (assuming your school is in a market you want)

loool

[hardcorepawn]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

[rad lulz]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This sounds like some straight 0L shit. Top half of T50 is NOT in a good spot for OCI.

[ilovesf]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

why did you decide to make a new username and give terrible advice?

[Ludo!]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This is the wrongest thing I've ever seen in the history of TLS. Top half is not good enough for OCI jobs at most Top 50 schools. Even top 5% at T1 schools can and do strike out and you would have to be a complete moron not to be massmailing your ass off no matter what

[Anonymous User]

I was in the top 5% at MVP and still massmailed. There are probably good firms you're interested in that aren't coming to your school's OCI, and it costs you almost nothing to get more applications out there. On top of that, it's more practice writing cover letters, and if you get more interviews more practice interviewing. I really see no reason for anybody to not work it in to their strategy.

Ever year some people have tough luck. If you don't get good at interviewing until after your first round screening interviews, your grades might not save you.

[Anonymous User]

I was in the top 5% at MVP and still massmailed. There are probably good firms you're interested in that aren't coming to your school's OCI, and it costs you almost nothing to get more applications out there. On top of that, it's more practice writing cover letters, and if you get more interviews more practice interviewing. I really see no reason for anybody to not work it in to their strategy.

Ever year some people have tough luck. If you don't get good at interviewing until after your first round screening interviews, your grades might not save you.

Fair enough; what would you consider massmailing? 20 firms? 100? 500?

[hardcorepawn]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This is the wrongest thing I've ever seen in the history of TLS. Top half is not good enough for OCI jobs at most Top 50 schools. Even top 5% at T1 schools can and do strike out and you would have to be a complete moron not to be massmailing your ass off no matter what

If you strike out when you are top 5%, then mass mailing isn't going to help your cause, you are prolly a bad interviewer. And to the poster that was top 5% at MVP, did you get your job through OCI or through mass mailing? Also I don't feel I am giving terrible advice, you can obviously mass mail if you want to and it's never going to hurt but if OP is in the position I described then he/she should be feeling relatively confident going into August

[Anonymous User]

And to the poster that was top 5% at MVP, did you get your job through OCI or through mass mailing?

I got offers from both.

You won't know how good of an interviewer you are until you start, but no matter what your skill, the more interviews/CBs the better your odds.

[ben4847]

Yes, of course there are people who don't need to mass mail. If you are satisfied with the firms who are coming to OCI, and you have enough screeners to be certain of a job given your grades, then forget the mailing. There's no formula which will tell this to you, but, for example, if you have good grades at a CLS and are aiming at NYC, you'll be fine with OCI.

[rad lulz]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This is the wrongest thing I've ever seen in the history of TLS. Top half is not good enough for OCI jobs at most Top 50 schools. Even top 5% at T1 schools can and do strike out and you would have to be a complete moron not to be massmailing your ass off no matter what

If you strike out when you are top 5%, then mass mailing isn't going to help your cause, you are prolly a bad interviewer. And to the poster that was top 5% at MVP, did you get your job through OCI or through mass mailing? Also I don't feel I am giving terrible advice, you can obviously mass mail if you want to and it's never going to hurt but if OP is in the position I described then he/she should be feeling relatively confident going into August

Spoken like someone who had never been through OCI.

[rad lulz]

Yes, of course there are people who don't need to mass mail. If you are satisfied with the firms who are coming to OCI, and you have enough screeners to be certain of a job given your grades, then forget the mailing. There's no formula which will tell this to you, but, for example, if you have good grades at a CLS and are aiming at NYC, you'll be fine with OCI.

Nope. This is dumb. Everyone should mail. As an example, I know a dude who went 0/18 on OCI screeners with top third grades from Vanderbilt. Got an offer from mailing.

[Ludo!]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This is the wrongest thing I've ever seen in the history of TLS. Top half is not good enough for OCI jobs at most Top 50 schools. Even top 5% at T1 schools can and do strike out and you would have to be a complete moron not to be massmailing your ass off no matter what

If you strike out when you are top 5%, then mass mailing isn't going to help your cause, you are prolly a bad interviewer. And to the poster that was top 5% at MVP, did you get your job through OCI or through mass mailing? Also I don't feel I am giving terrible advice, you can obviously mass mail if you want to and it's never going to hurt but if OP is in the position I described then he/she should be feeling relatively confident going into August

0ls shouldn't be posting in the legal employment forum.

[Anonymous User]

Yes, of course there are people who don't need to mass mail. If you are satisfied with the firms who are coming to OCI, and you have enough screeners to be certain of a job given your grades, then forget the mailing. There's no formula which will tell this to you, but, for example, if you have good grades at a CLS and are aiming at NYC, you'll be fine with OCI.

Nope. This is dumb. Everyone should mail. As an example, I know a dude who went 0/18 on OCI screeners with top third grades from Vanderbilt. Got an offer from mailing.

Top 1/3 at Vandy is not the same as good grades at Columbia

[drmguy]

I'm struggling with this right now as well. Somewhere in the top 5% at a 90s TT and transferring to B.

Moral of the story, no matter what you should mail?

[Total Litigator]

Jeez I'm not saying that everyone in the top half of those schools gets jobs through OCI, obviously there is more to the app-- All I'm saying is that if you are in that position you should be feeling relatively confident that you will get at least ONE job offer through OCI and mass mailing is probably relatively optional-- You can do it if you want or if you want to be in another market but if you just want a job you should be set

This is the wrongest thing I've ever seen in the history of TLS. Top half is not good enough for OCI jobs at most Top 50 schools. Even top 5% at T1 schools can and do strike out and you would have to be a complete moron not to be massmailing your ass off no matter what

If you strike out when you are top 5%, then mass mailing isn't going to help your cause, you are prolly a bad interviewer. And to the poster that was top 5% at MVP, did you get your job through OCI or through mass mailing? Also I don't feel I am giving terrible advice, you can obviously mass mail if you want to and it's never going to hurt but if OP is in the position I described then he/she should be feeling relatively confident going into August

Just. Stop. Talking. shhhhhh

[luckyme]

I'm struggling with this right now as well. Somewhere in the top 5% at a 90s TT and transferring to B.

Moral of the story, no matter what you should mail?

seems to be some disagreement about this