.01 below top 15% cutoff. Originally from mountain west. Family in LA, SF, MN, and HI. Unsure whether I want corp. or lit. No idea on journal yet. EIW is pure lottery.
1. Chapman and Cutler (DC)
2. Crowell & Moring (DC)
3. Chadbourne & Parke (NY)
4. Alston & Bird (DC)
5. Skadden (NY)
6. MoFo (SF)
7. Gibson Dunn (LA)
8. Perkins Coie (Seattle)
9. Weil (NY)
10. Skadden (DC)
11. Patton Boggs (DC)
12. Ropes & Gray (NY)
13. Debevoise (NY)
14. Kirkland (NY)
15. Proskauer (NY)
16. Kirkland (DC)
17. Latham (LA)
18. Venable (DC)
19. Dorsey & Whitney (MN)
20. Sutherland (DC)
21. OMM (LA)
22. Wilson Sonsini (Palo Alto)
23. Wilkie Farr (NY)
24. Arnold & Porter (DC)
25. Arent Fox (DC)
26. Akin Gump (DC)
27. Allen & Overy (Hong Kong)
28. Mayer Brown (DC)
29. Wiley Rein (DC)
30. OMM (Century City)
31. Faegre Baker (Denver)
32. Davis Polk (NY)
33. Young Conaway (Delaware)
34. Nixon Peabody (DC)
35. ExxonMobil (Houston)
36. Goodwin Proctor (NY)
37. Freshfields (Hong Kong)
38. Seward & Kissel (NY)
39. cades schutte (Hawaii)
40. Cleary (NY)
41. Irell (Newport)
42. hogan lovells (Denver)
43. WilmerHale (DC)
44. Williams & Connolly (DC)
45. White & Case (NY)
46. Hunton & Williams (DC)
47. Akin Gump (NY)
48. Arnold & Porter (NY)
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
Hi - former GULCer working in SF now.
Why Irell in Newport and not Century City? sure you prefer that?
Is Quinn going to be there? might consider them, or mass mailing. Orrick? Bingham?
looks like a solid list to me.
Why Irell in Newport and not Century City? sure you prefer that?
Is Quinn going to be there? might consider them, or mass mailing. Orrick? Bingham?
looks like a solid list to me.
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
Hi- GULC rising 3L working in NYC.
You're not going to get firms ranked below #20 or so (esp. A&P-- I bid them #1 last year in order to get a slot. I bid Wilmer #3 and did not get an interview. Same with W&C in my top 10). Looks like you've got the right selection of firms though. Might want to work on the exact ordering.
You're not going to get firms ranked below #20 or so (esp. A&P-- I bid them #1 last year in order to get a slot. I bid Wilmer #3 and did not get an interview. Same with W&C in my top 10). Looks like you've got the right selection of firms though. Might want to work on the exact ordering.
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
is there a difference between offices or do you just mean orange county sucks?Anonymous User wrote:Hi - former GULCer working in SF now.
Why Irell in Newport and not Century City? sure you prefer that?
Is Quinn going to be there? might consider them, or mass mailing. Orrick? Bingham?
looks like a solid list to me.
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
Just graduated from GULC.
I get that you're trying to use the ties and such, but that bid list strikes me as a little all over the place even with competitive grades. For instance, if you're not sure if you want corporate or litigation, why put Chapman first (unless you've got a particular reason for that)? It's much more finance-oriented a place and won't give you the chance to try out a bunch of different areas during the summer. You can also be more aggressive; sure, Crowell isn't a bad place at all, but it's got smaller summer classes so it's not going to give you as much of a benefit, but a place like Weil may give you more consideration and you'll have a better shot of getting it if you rank it higher. Why Exxon? Alston and Bird with a tiny class? You need more broader options in that Top 10 especially. Move Perkins Coie Seattle down a little while moving places like Robes and Debevoise and such up.
A lot of the EIW lottery stuff is a game of rankings. You'll have to look at the number of slots, bids, etc. and play with it. But right now, you're pretty much guaranteeing no interviews out of the Top 20, and you're picking many firms with smaller summer classes that may not give you a great opportunity for a job. Sure, the screener hustling post-lottery works out sometimes, but still, it wouldn't be a bad thing to reorder that list a bunch and consider mixing it up with places that'll give you a chance to try out different things.
I get that you're trying to use the ties and such, but that bid list strikes me as a little all over the place even with competitive grades. For instance, if you're not sure if you want corporate or litigation, why put Chapman first (unless you've got a particular reason for that)? It's much more finance-oriented a place and won't give you the chance to try out a bunch of different areas during the summer. You can also be more aggressive; sure, Crowell isn't a bad place at all, but it's got smaller summer classes so it's not going to give you as much of a benefit, but a place like Weil may give you more consideration and you'll have a better shot of getting it if you rank it higher. Why Exxon? Alston and Bird with a tiny class? You need more broader options in that Top 10 especially. Move Perkins Coie Seattle down a little while moving places like Robes and Debevoise and such up.
A lot of the EIW lottery stuff is a game of rankings. You'll have to look at the number of slots, bids, etc. and play with it. But right now, you're pretty much guaranteeing no interviews out of the Top 20, and you're picking many firms with smaller summer classes that may not give you a great opportunity for a job. Sure, the screener hustling post-lottery works out sometimes, but still, it wouldn't be a bad thing to reorder that list a bunch and consider mixing it up with places that'll give you a chance to try out different things.
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
Get rid of Exxon. Even in the 30s it's not worth the bid. They hire about 4 summers and only offer 1 or 2 of them.
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Re: GULC Top 15-20% Bidlist Critique
OP here. Perhaps I should rephrase. More interested in financial work (M&A, PE, hedge funds, etc.), but open to lit. C&C is also one of the only firms with an office in my home market. I've reworked my lists in order reflect some of the critiques above. Please help me revise further.
1. Chapman & Cutler DC
2. Skadden NY
3. Chadbourne & Parke NY
4. Weil NY
5. Patton Boggs DC
6. Bingham NY
7. K&E NY
8. Debevoise NY
9. Gibson Dunn NY
10. Crowell & Moring DC
11. Skadden DC
12. Alston & Bird DC
13. Ropes NY
14. Proskauer NY
15. Venable DC
16. Latham DC
17. Sidley DC
18. MoFo SF
19. A&P NY
20. Sutherland DC
21. Dorsey & Whitney MN
22. Wiley Rein DC
23. Milbank NY
24. OMM LA
25. Wilson Sonsini Palo Alto
26. Wilkie Farr NY
27. A&P DC
28. Arent Fox DC
29. Akin Gump DC
30. Allen & Overy Hong Kong
31. Mayer Brown DC
32. Seward & Kissel NY
33. OMM Century City
34. Faegre Baker Denver
35. DPW NY
36. Young Conaway DE
37. Nixon Peabody DC
38. Hunton & Williams DC
39. Goodwin Procter NY
40. Freshfields Hong Kong
41. Cadwalater DC
42. cades schutte HI
43. Cleary NY
44. Irell Newport
45. hogan lovells Denver
46. WilmerHale DC
47. W&C DC
48. White & Case NY
49. ExxonMobil Houston
50. Akin Gump NY
1. Chapman & Cutler DC
2. Skadden NY
3. Chadbourne & Parke NY
4. Weil NY
5. Patton Boggs DC
6. Bingham NY
7. K&E NY
8. Debevoise NY
9. Gibson Dunn NY
10. Crowell & Moring DC
11. Skadden DC
12. Alston & Bird DC
13. Ropes NY
14. Proskauer NY
15. Venable DC
16. Latham DC
17. Sidley DC
18. MoFo SF
19. A&P NY
20. Sutherland DC
21. Dorsey & Whitney MN
22. Wiley Rein DC
23. Milbank NY
24. OMM LA
25. Wilson Sonsini Palo Alto
26. Wilkie Farr NY
27. A&P DC
28. Arent Fox DC
29. Akin Gump DC
30. Allen & Overy Hong Kong
31. Mayer Brown DC
32. Seward & Kissel NY
33. OMM Century City
34. Faegre Baker Denver
35. DPW NY
36. Young Conaway DE
37. Nixon Peabody DC
38. Hunton & Williams DC
39. Goodwin Procter NY
40. Freshfields Hong Kong
41. Cadwalater DC
42. cades schutte HI
43. Cleary NY
44. Irell Newport
45. hogan lovells Denver
46. WilmerHale DC
47. W&C DC
48. White & Case NY
49. ExxonMobil Houston
50. Akin Gump NY
