How do firms decide what is "diversity?" Forum

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:32 pm

I was wondering about this because I found that a girl at median at my T2 got a diversity SA at my secondary market's biggest firm. She is 1/4 Korean apparently, looks white as a ghost, went to Ivy undergrad and parents are both professors. This annoyed me quite a bit.

SchopenhauerFTW · Post by **SchopenhauerFTW** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:42 pm

She must have demonstrated a commitment to promoting diversity in the community.

dpk711 · Post by **dpk711** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:43 pm

abc12345675 wrote:She is 1/4 Korean apparently, looks white as a ghost ... This annoyed me quite a bit.

lulz

2012JayDee · Post by **2012JayDee** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:07 pm

She=Diversity
Some firms female:male ratio is quite low

Maybe she's LGBT?

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:04 pm

2012JayDee wrote:She=Diversity
Some firms female:male ratio is quite low

Maybe she's LGBT?

Also, she is Asian.

ru2486 · Post by **ru2486** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:09 pm

ITT: OP complains about mixed-race people counting for diversity

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:10 pm

ru2486 wrote:ITT: OP complains about mixed-race people counting for diversity

Exactly.

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:10 pm

ru2486 wrote:ITT: OP complains about mixed-race people counting for diversity

ITT: OP is mad no one in his family had DAT YELLOW FEVER

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:11 pm

Also, OP, if you do, in fact, support diversity initiatives generally, fuck you for getting mad at mixed race people taking advantage of diversity initiatives.

SchopenhauerFTW · Post by **SchopenhauerFTW** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Maybe OP is more upset about this girl's prestige (Ivy league, parents both professors).

ru2486 · Post by **ru2486** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:57 pm

abc12345675 wrote:She is 1/4 Korean apparently, looks white as a ghost, went to Ivy undergrad and parents are both professors. This annoyed me quite a bit.

The first half of her complaint is racial blood measuring juxtaposed with her appearance.

r6_philly · Post by **r6_philly** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:44 pm

Mix children, especially with Asian, get prejudice from both sides. I don't know what OP is trying to imply, but it's not justified.

Borhas · Post by **Borhas** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:20 pm

SchopenhauerFTW wrote:Maybe OP is more upset about this girl's prestige (Ivy league, parents both professors).

No no no, "OP is a racist" make sure to stay on point!

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:00 pm

I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction to this post.

I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives. What I was getting at is that this particular situation struck me as someone gaming the system.

To me, diversity initiatives should be aimed at people who truly do experience some sort of prejudice. Call me crazy, but someone with an Italian last name who no one in the world would suspect is Asian at all upon meeting her does not experience any type of prejudice. So why should she benefit from a diversity initiative?

wiseowl · Post by **wiseowl** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:06 pm

abc12345675 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction to this post.

I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives. What I was getting at is that this particular situation struck me as someone gaming the system.

To me, diversity initiatives should be aimed at people who truly do experience some sort of prejudice. Call me crazy, but someone with an Italian last name who no one in the world would suspect is Asian at all upon meeting her does not experience any type of prejudice. So why should she benefit from a diversity initiative?

ROFL after your trolling in the Googlebomb gay marriage thread you are not surprised one bit.

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:12 pm

wiseowl wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction to this post.

I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives. What I was getting at is that this particular situation struck me as someone gaming the system.

To me, diversity initiatives should be aimed at people who truly do experience some sort of prejudice. Call me crazy, but someone with an Italian last name who no one in the world would suspect is Asian at all upon meeting her does not experience any type of prejudice. So why should she benefit from a diversity initiative?
ROFL after your trolling in the Googlebomb gay marriage thread you are not surprised one bit.

I actually still am surprised.

There are numerous African-American, Asian, and 1st generation American students at my school. Seems unjust to me that someone who could never experience prejudice (and yes, could never. Because you'd have no clue she is asian unless she told you) is benefiting from a diversity initiative instead of those who I'd imagine those initiatives were designed to help.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:49 pm

abc12345675 wrote:
I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives.

Then,

rad lulz wrote:fuck you for getting mad at mixed race people taking advantage of diversity initiatives.

Just because she doesn't looks diverse to you doesn't mean she is not. And who are we to judge? The firm obviously thought she met the requirements.

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:53 pm

abc12345675 wrote:
wiseowl wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction to this post.

I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives. What I was getting at is that this particular situation struck me as someone gaming the system.

To me, diversity initiatives should be aimed at people who truly do experience some sort of prejudice. Call me crazy, but someone with an Italian last name who no one in the world would suspect is Asian at all upon meeting her does not experience any type of prejudice. So why should she benefit from a diversity initiative?
ROFL after your trolling in the Googlebomb gay marriage thread you are not surprised one bit.
I actually still am surprised.

There are numerous African-American, Asian, and 1st generation American students at my school. Seems unjust to me that someone who could never experience prejudice (and yes, could never. Because you'd have no clue she is asian unless she told you) is benefiting from a diversity initiative instead of those who I'd imagine those initiatives were designed to help.

The purpose of diversity I initiatives is to add diversity, not remedy past discrimination. Sorry she is not diverse enough for you bro.

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:56 pm

rad lulz wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:
wiseowl wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised by the reaction to this post.

I'm not racist and I certainly support diversity initiatives. What I was getting at is that this particular situation struck me as someone gaming the system.

To me, diversity initiatives should be aimed at people who truly do experience some sort of prejudice. Call me crazy, but someone with an Italian last name who no one in the world would suspect is Asian at all upon meeting her does not experience any type of prejudice. So why should she benefit from a diversity initiative?
ROFL after your trolling in the Googlebomb gay marriage thread you are not surprised one bit.
I actually still am surprised.

There are numerous African-American, Asian, and 1st generation American students at my school. Seems unjust to me that someone who could never experience prejudice (and yes, could never. Because you'd have no clue she is asian unless she told you) is benefiting from a diversity initiative instead of those who I'd imagine those initiatives were designed to help.
The purpose of diversity I initiatives is to add diversity, not remedy past discrimination. Sorry she is not diverse enough for you bro.

Well see that's what I didn't understand. I thought the purpose of these initiatives was to provide assistance to those who face/could face employment discrimination. It's not that I don't think she's "diverse" enough to add diversity. I just didn't think that was the point

Sauer Grapes · Post by **Sauer Grapes** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:02 pm

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

2012JayDee · Post by **2012JayDee** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:03 pm

abc12345675 wrote:[Well see that's what I didn't understand. I thought the purpose of these initiatives was to provide assistance to those who face/could face employment discrimination. It's not that I don't think she's "diverse" enough to add diversity. I just didn't think that was the point

You mean from people that don't thinks she's diverse enough?

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:06 pm

This is dumb. No one is forcing the firm to make diversity hires. They are probably really into her for her grades and are just happy they can check the diversity box while they're at it.

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:08 pm

2012JayDee wrote:
abc12345675 wrote:[Well see that's what I didn't understand. I thought the purpose of these initiatives was to provide assistance to those who face/could face employment discrimination. It's not that I don't think she's "diverse" enough to add diversity. I just didn't think that was the point

You mean from people that don't thinks she's diverse enough?

You're misunderstanding my point. My point is that no one would ever suspect that she's anything but a white person. So therefore there would be no employment discrimination for a race/ethnicity reason, which I thought was the purpose of diversity initiatives. Apparently I was wrong about that.

abc12345675 · Post by **abc12345675** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:08 pm

IAFG wrote:This is dumb. No one is forcing the firm to make diversity hires. They are probably really into her for her grades and are just happy they can check the diversity box while they're at it.

At median T2 at the market's biggest firm. They hire one 1L each year from my school for a "diversity summer associate program"

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:10 pm

abc12345675 wrote:
IAFG wrote:This is dumb. No one is forcing the firm to make diversity hires. They are probably really into her for her grades and are just happy they can check the diversity box while they're at it.
At median T2 at the market's biggest firm. They hire one 1L each year from my school for a "diversity summer associate program"

How do you know her grades?

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