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PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:42 pm
by rad lulz
Even from good schools, outside maybe the very top grades, strike out at OCI is always possible to some degree. Consider bad bidding or shitty interviewing. Similarly, some people with low grades get biglaw due to WE/IP/URM/ties to insular markets/connections.
So quit making threads like "3.1 GPA - fucked?" without more info. OCI isn't a mathematical function where you put in your GPA and out pops a Vault ranking. That's not how it works; this is NOT like law school admissions. And what if someone told you that you were, in fact, fucked. Would you really just not do OCI or mail any firms? That would be sublimely idiotic.
HTH.
Re: PSA for all you people posting [grades] at [school] threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:46 pm
by DCDuck
Thank you!
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:22 pm
by Anonymous User
I just wanted to know what to expect. Knowing that almost everyone at my school in my gpa range will have biglaw jerbs helps.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:04 pm
by LawIdiot86
Anonymous User wrote:I just wanted to know what to expect. Knowing that almost everyone at my school in my gpa range will have biglaw jerbs helps.
No it doesn't . If anything, it hurts. You'll develop a false sense of security and a sense of entitlement and not prepare the way you should. You'll wonder how everyone else with your GPA got jobs and curse firms for stupidly hiring kids with low GPAs. And it'll be your own damn fault for not driving yourself hard enough because your thought it was a lock.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:18 pm
by SchopenhauerFTW
LawIdiot86 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I just wanted to know what to expect. Knowing that almost everyone at my school in my gpa range will have biglaw jerbs helps.
No it doesn't . If anything, it hurts. You'll develop a false sense of security and a sense of entitlement and not prepare the way you should. You'll wonder how everyone else with your GPA got jobs and curse firms for stupidly hiring kids with low GPAs. And it'll be your own damn fault for not driving yourself hard enough because your thought it was a lock.
Are you talking from personal experience?
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:32 pm
by ajaxconstructions
LawIdiot86 wrote:Anonymous User wrote:I just wanted to know what to expect. Knowing that almost everyone at my school in my gpa range will have biglaw jerbs helps.
No it doesn't . If anything, it hurts. You'll develop a false sense of security and a sense of entitlement and not prepare the way you should. You'll wonder how everyone else with your GPA got jobs and curse firms for stupidly hiring kids with low GPAs. And it'll be your own damn fault for not driving yourself hard enough because your thought it was a lock.
No you fucking idiot, some people are more motivated when they know they have a good chance at something. Think the kid with a 3.1 is more motivated or the guy with the 3.9? It depends entirely on the person.
Warning: This is not an okay use of the anon feature.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:38 pm
by shotsfired12
ppl post for psychological assurance. They're trying to get a sense of "virtual community support" as well. It isn't very logical or actually helpful to the poster, but so what. Let them post and let people respond. If you don't like it, ignore the post. It's TLS - didn't know there was a ban on pointless threads.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:39 pm
by SchopenhauerFTW
Stop abusing the anon feature.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:33 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:ppl post for psychological assurance. They're trying to get a sense of "virtual community support" as well. It isn't very logical or actually helpful to the poster, but so what. Let them post and let people respond. If you don't like it, ignore the post. It's TLS - didn't know there was a ban on pointless threads.
There is a ban on using anon to disassociate your username from obvious butthurt.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:49 pm
by Bildungsroman
law firm hiring is a lot like finding a law school. You put in two variables (rank and school) and we tell you exactly where you'll end up (e.g. V27). This is definitely how legal hiring works, and people who post threads like "3.27 at Michigan, what do?" totally shouldn't feel retarded and ashamed.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:14 pm
by shmoo597
Bildungsroman wrote:law firm hiring is a lot like finding a law school. You put in two variables (rank and school) and we tell you exactly where you'll end up (e.g. V27). This is definitely how legal hiring works, and people who post threads like "3.27 at Michigan, what do?" totally shouldn't feel retarded and ashamed.
lol at someone with over 11,500 posts on a law school admissions forum calling someone looking for totally valid and useful information "retarded and ashamed," just lol.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:28 pm
by rad lulz
shmoo597 wrote:Bildungsroman wrote:law firm hiring is a lot like finding a law school. You put in two variables (rank and school) and we tell you exactly where you'll end up (e.g. V27). This is definitely how legal hiring works, and people who post threads like "3.27 at Michigan, what do?" totally shouldn't feel retarded and ashamed.
lol at someone with over 11,500 posts on a law school admissions forum calling someone looking for totally valid and useful information "retarded and ashamed," just lol.
Lol @ someone who's been on here since 2008 calling someone out for TLS activity, just lol.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:39 pm
by wiseowl
we should really just make a "What are My Chances" thread like we do every year
just tired of the whole LE board being "I'm median at X, am I fucked?"
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:53 pm
by BarbellDreams
shmoo597 wrote:Bildungsroman wrote:law firm hiring is a lot like finding a law school. You put in two variables (rank and school) and we tell you exactly where you'll end up (e.g. V27). This is definitely how legal hiring works, and people who post threads like "3.27 at Michigan, what do?" totally shouldn't feel retarded and ashamed.
lol at someone with over 11,500 posts on a law school admissions forum calling someone looking for totally valid and useful information "retarded and ashamed," just lol.
You tried hard but failed miserably. Good try though.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:18 pm
by shmoo597
BarbellDreams wrote:
You tried hard but failed miserably. Good try though.
hmm, hows that?
rad lulz wrote:
Lol @ someone who's been on here since 2008 calling someone out for TLS activity, just lol.
hmm, hows that?
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:24 pm
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:BarbellDreams wrote:
You tried hard but failed miserably. Good try though.
hmm, hows that?
rad lulz wrote:
Lol @ someone who's been on here since 2008 calling someone out for TLS activity, just lol.
hmm, hows that?
I also like to anon so I won't get called out for making nonsensical poasts.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:15 am
by rad lulz
bump
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:27 am
by ilovesf
Rad, how do you feel about people posting bid lists?
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:31 am
by rad lulz
ilovesf wrote:Rad, how do you feel about people posting bid lists?
Poast, but it's a lot more helpful when you include moar info about yourself other than just grades and school. That way people can tell you shit like "Oh, you want transactional? Don't bid Quinn and Boies hurr durr" and stuff like that.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:34 am
by rad lulz
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:37 am
by rad lulz
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:55 am
by Anonymous User
I am anonymous quoting this because I do not want to reveal my GPA, I am the second poster.
Look--I was very upset, and although I know that you are correct NO ONE can give me a percise reason to this question I am in a very tough spot. A part of me wants to quit and another just wants to cry all day.
I had a really rough day and a part of me just wanted people to be honest--instead of having family tell me its ok I will find a job--I need to evaluate my CHANCES realistically. You are correct, I should have been more proactive and posted more info---I now added a bunch.
Once again, so sorry for being annoying--but I felt desperate which is why I posted in the forum.
Re: PSA: posting "[grades] at [school] - OCI?" threads
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:35 am
by rad lulz
Anonymous User wrote:
I am anonymous quoting this because I do not want to reveal my GPA, I am the second poster.
Look--I was very upset, and although I know that you are correct NO ONE can give me a percise reason to this question I am in a very tough spot. A part of me wants to quit and another just wants to cry all day.
I had a really rough day and a part of me just wanted people to be honest--instead of having family tell me its ok I will find a job--I need to evaluate my CHANCES realistically. You are correct, I should have been more proactive and posted more info---I now added a bunch.
Once again, so sorry for being annoying--but I felt desperate which is why I posted in the forum.
You still have 2 grades left. Chill out for now.