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Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:50 pm
by Anonymous User
Do most Biglaw firms require incoming tax associates to get their LLM?

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:46 pm
by nealric
A plurality of NYC and DC firms expect new associates to get an LLM at night. It's less common (but not unheard of) in other cities.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:51 pm
by Anonymous User
nealric wrote:A plurality of NYC and DC firms expect new associates to get an LLM at night. It's less common (but not unheard of) in other cities.
Curious if most of these firms reimburse tuition 100%.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:38 pm
by LawIdiot86
Can someone get the graphic? I'm sure OP is a 3L considering a tax llm from nyls and needs the flowchart.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:50 pm
by Anonymous User
LawIdiot86 wrote:Can someone get the graphic? I'm sure OP is a 3L considering a tax llm from nyls and needs the flowchart.
The only reason I'm curious is because I plan on only practicing for 3-5 years before moving to a different career (or if I like it enough, I'll stick with it). Tax is interesting to me, but if it requires an LLM, it's not worth it to me- at least not right now. I'd just do corporate law.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:55 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:
LawIdiot86 wrote:Can someone get the graphic? I'm sure OP is a 3L considering a tax llm from nyls and needs the flowchart.
The only reason I'm curious is because I plan on only practicing for 3-5 years before moving to a different career (or if I like it enough, I'll stick with it). Tax is interesting to me, but if it requires an LLM, it's not worth it to me- at least not right now. I'd just do corporate law.
Many of the big tax practices will support your going to PT classes for an LLM. I've heard that it's kind of a joke - you attend ~50% of the classes, never have time to prepare, and just go through the motions to get the credential.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:53 am
by nealric
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
LawIdiot86 wrote:Can someone get the graphic? I'm sure OP is a 3L considering a tax llm from nyls and needs the flowchart.
The only reason I'm curious is because I plan on only practicing for 3-5 years before moving to a different career (or if I like it enough, I'll stick with it). Tax is interesting to me, but if it requires an LLM, it's not worth it to me- at least not right now. I'd just do corporate law.
Many of the big tax practices will support your going to PT classes for an LLM. I've heard that it's kind of a joke - you attend ~50% of the classes, never have time to prepare, and just go through the motions to get the credential.
I wouldn't call it a joke. Most of the people at my firm who did a PT LLM said it was big chunk of work on top of normal workloads. I did mine FT, and thought the classes were more difficult on average than normal law school classes. At the same time, you could probably skate by without doing much work if you just wanted to pass.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:18 pm
by LawIdiot86
nealric wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
LawIdiot86 wrote:Can someone get the graphic? I'm sure OP is a 3L considering a tax llm from nyls and needs the flowchart.
The only reason I'm curious is because I plan on only practicing for 3-5 years before moving to a different career (or if I like it enough, I'll stick with it). Tax is interesting to me, but if it requires an LLM, it's not worth it to me- at least not right now. I'd just do corporate law.
Many of the big tax practices will support your going to PT classes for an LLM. I've heard that it's kind of a joke - you attend ~50% of the classes, never have time to prepare, and just go through the motions to get the credential.
I wouldn't call it a joke. Most of the people at my firm who did a PT LLM said it was big chunk of work on top of normal workloads. I did mine FT, and thought the classes were more difficult on average than normal law school classes. At the same time, you could probably skate by without doing much work if you just wanted to pass.
At my school the LLM classes are identical to the JD classes. There is even cross-enrollment and cross-course numbering for students who want to take the different courses. The only difference between the courses is the ratio of seats reserved for JD registration v. LLM registration.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:22 pm
by IrwinM.Fletcher
LawIdiot86 wrote:
At my school the LLM classes are identical to the JD classes. There is even cross-enrollment and cross-course numbering for students who want to take the different courses. The only difference between the courses is the ratio of seats reserved for JD registration v. LLM registration.
Do you go to NYU or Georgetown?

If not, I don't see how this is relevant.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:22 pm
by LawIdiot86
IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:
LawIdiot86 wrote:
At my school the LLM classes are identical to the JD classes. There is even cross-enrollment and cross-course numbering for students who want to take the different courses. The only difference between the courses is the ratio of seats reserved for JD registration v. LLM registration.
Do you go to NYU or Georgetown?

If not, I don't see how this is relevant.
I go to one of those.

Re: Biglaw Tax Attorney Hiring and LLM's

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:30 pm
by nealric

At my school the LLM classes are identical to the JD classes. There is even cross-enrollment and cross-course numbering for students who want to take the different courses. The only difference between the courses is the ratio of seats reserved for JD registration v. LLM registration.
I went to Georgetown. Sure, there was cross enrollment, but in practice most classes were either JD students or LLM students (or joint degree students). I'm also comparing the workload of general JD classes (i.e. non-tax classes) with an all-tax LLM workload.