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GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:08 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
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Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:10 pm
by target
I would love to know this as well and if there is a grade cutoff for mass mailing

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:11 pm
by dingbat
.375 H&H Mag. wrote:I'm a 1L at W&M. We have an interview program in NYC that a handful of big firms attend, and I'm having the hardest time figuring out what GPA might be required, with little help from OCS. The class ahead of me has 4 or 5 people (out of 200) going to V10s in in NYC, in addition to those who scored top DC firms or went to V50s in NYC, and I'm trying to figure out if I'm in striking distance for either range of NYC firms. If anyone has any idea what kind of cutoffs exist in NYC BigLaw for schools in this range, that would be really helpful.
My understanding is that at Fordham top 1/3 gets you the interview (but not neccesarily the job)

I figure BU/BC/Vandy will be about the same.
I guess UCLA/USC might be top half.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:12 pm
by Julio_El_Chavo
top 10% for W&M gives you a decent shot

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:14 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:15 pm
by dingbat
rad lulz wrote:Shouldn't you be studying?
What's the cutoff at Vandy?

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:52 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
rad lulz wrote:Shouldn't you be studying?
Everyone deserves a TLS break. Even hopeful TTT gunners.

Thanks for the responses so far.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:54 pm
by SilverE2
dingbat wrote:
.375 H&H Mag. wrote:I'm a 1L at W&M. We have an interview program in NYC that a handful of big firms attend, and I'm having the hardest time figuring out what GPA might be required, with little help from OCS. The class ahead of me has 4 or 5 people (out of 200) going to V10s in in NYC, in addition to those who scored top DC firms or went to V50s in NYC, and I'm trying to figure out if I'm in striking distance for either range of NYC firms. If anyone has any idea what kind of cutoffs exist in NYC BigLaw for schools in this range, that would be really helpful.
My understanding is that at Fordham top 1/3 gets you the interview (but not neccesarily the job)

I figure BU/BC/Vandy will be about the same.
I guess UCLA/USC might be top half.
Lol at top 1/2 for UCLA/USC but top 1/3 at Vandy.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:56 pm
by rad lulz
SilverE2 wrote: Lol at top 1/2 for UCLA/USC but top 1/3 at Vandy.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:57 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
SilverE2 wrote:Lol at top 1/2 for UCLA/USC but top 1/3 at Vandy.
Yeah, some of these thoughts are surprisingly optimistic, especially coming from TLS.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:00 pm
by LawIdiot86
.375 H&H Mag. wrote:
SilverE2 wrote:Lol at top 1/2 for UCLA/USC but top 1/3 at Vandy.
Yeah, some of these thoughts are surprisingly optimistic, especially coming from TLS.
I read that as number getting an interview, not number getting an offer. That might be generous for getting an interview in NYC, but probably isn't for getting an any interview.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:04 pm
by de5igual
well, luckily (or unluckily, depending on how you look at it) for you, it's probably 100% pre-select, so there's no point in trying to gauge what their cutoffs are for the interview. it's not like you're not going to bid on every one of them anyway.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:08 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
f0bolous wrote:well, luckily (or unluckily, depending on how you look at it) for you, it's probably 100% pre-select, so there's no point in trying to gauge what their cutoffs are for the interview. it's not like you're not going to bid on every one of them anyway.
That's definitely true. At this point though, I'm trying to determine whether I should make plans to travel for the interview program AND how much effort I should put into networking in that market over the summer, as opposed to focusing my efforts somewhere else.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:10 pm
by de5igual
.375 H&H Mag. wrote:
f0bolous wrote:well, luckily (or unluckily, depending on how you look at it) for you, it's probably 100% pre-select, so there's no point in trying to gauge what their cutoffs are for the interview. it's not like you're not going to bid on every one of them anyway.
That's definitely true. At this point though, I'm trying to determine whether I should make plans to travel for the interview program AND how much effort I should put into networking in that market over the summer, as opposed to focusing my efforts somewhere else.
depends on how likely you are to get a job otherwise. if you only get 1-2 screeners, it probably won't be worth it. 5-6+, then definitely go.

if you're top 10% or so, it's an easy way for you to finish the job search early on. if you're not top 10%, then you'd be foolish to turn down any opportunity.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:19 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
f0bolous wrote:if you're top 10% or so, it's an easy way for you to finish the job search early on. if you're not top 10%, then you'd be foolish to turn down any opportunity.
I'm reading this as you saying: "Dude, just go for it no matter what!"
Thanks for the encouragement, man!

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:48 pm
by monkey85
dingbat wrote:My understanding is that at Fordham top 1/3 gets you the interview (but not neccesarily the job)
GW is the same. Top 1/3 gets you the interview (but not necessarily the job).

BUT our interview program also has suggested GPA cutoffs on each firms symplicity page (e.g., SullCrom only wants Top 10% so if you apply and are below that, you are wasting your time). Does W&M do that as well? If so, I would suggest adhering to that fairly strictly with maybe a few reaches.

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm
by .375 H&H Mag.
monkey85 wrote:BUT our interview program also has suggested GPA cutoffs on each firms symplicity page (e.g., SullCrom only wants Top 10% so if you apply and are below that, you are wasting your time). Does W&M do that as well? If so, I would suggest adhering to that fairly strictly with maybe a few reaches.
NO. I am baffled why there isn't some very simple data posted on this from W&M, which is why I have to ask here. Instead, the only information I've gotten is: "Yeah, you'd probably be okay for some interviews" and "talk to current students." OCS = well-meaning, but [sigh].

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:27 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:04 am
by dingbat
LawIdiot86 wrote:
.375 H&H Mag. wrote:
SilverE2 wrote:Lol at top 1/2 for UCLA/USC but top 1/3 at Vandy.
Yeah, some of these thoughts are surprisingly optimistic, especially coming from TLS.
I read that as number getting an interview, not number getting an offer. That might be generous for getting an interview in NYC, but probably isn't for getting an any interview.
I just meant getting a biglaw interview. It's tougher to figure out NY because of how big a role self selection might play

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:09 am
by Anonymous User
Once you have the interview, are grades still a substantial factor for call backs and offers?

Re: GPA Cutoffs for NYC BigLaw from T30?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:10 am
by rad lulz
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