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thesealocust wrote:
Everyone who gets poor grades 2L year has their offer revoked. If you get them in the fall you can't even spend the summer at the firm. There's a nationwide clearinghouse for grades to make sure it gets spotted as quickly as possible. A few firms will even fire you mid-summer if spring grades come out and they've dropped from your 1L average.

The reason for this is that your grades are what define you as a person. They are like talismanic sources of your intelligence, drive, work ethic, and charisma. If they falter, you falter. Without a properly impressive transcript backing you up, no client will take you seriously. No judge will listen to your arguments.

You aren't anything but your grades. It would be preposterous for a firm to consider extending employment to somebody so worthless as a human being as to allow themselves to be marred with poor performance on a law school exam.

thesealocust wrote:

thesealocust wrote:
Everyone who gets poor grades 2L year has their offer revoked. If you get them in the fall you can't even spend the summer at the firm. There's a nationwide clearinghouse for grades to make sure it gets spotted as quickly as possible. A few firms will even fire you mid-summer if spring grades come out and they've dropped from your 1L average.

The reason for this is that your grades are what define you as a person. They are like talismanic sources of your intelligence, drive, work ethic, and charisma. If they falter, you falter. Without a properly impressive transcript backing you up, no client will take you seriously. No judge will listen to your arguments.

You aren't anything but your grades. It would be preposterous for a firm to consider extending employment to somebody so worthless as a human being as to allow themselves to be marred with poor performance on a law school exam.

Grizz wrote:Check your credit score too. My bro had a bro that got no offered because of his less than stellar credit.

thesealocust wrote:

thesealocust wrote:
Everyone who gets poor grades 2L year has their offer revoked. If you get them in the fall you can't even spend the summer at the firm. There's a nationwide clearinghouse for grades to make sure it gets spotted as quickly as possible. A few firms will even fire you mid-summer if spring grades come out and they've dropped from your 1L average.

The reason for this is that your grades are what define you as a person. They are like talismanic sources of your intelligence, drive, work ethic, and charisma. If they falter, you falter. Without a properly impressive transcript backing you up, no client will take you seriously. No judge will listen to your arguments.

You aren't anything but your grades. It would be preposterous for a firm to consider extending employment to somebody so worthless as a human being as to allow themselves to be marred with poor performance on a law school exam.

Mroberts3 wrote:

thesealocust wrote:

thesealocust wrote:
Everyone who gets poor grades 2L year has their offer revoked. If you get them in the fall you can't even spend the summer at the firm. There's a nationwide clearinghouse for grades to make sure it gets spotted as quickly as possible. A few firms will even fire you mid-summer if spring grades come out and they've dropped from your 1L average.

The reason for this is that your grades are what define you as a person. They are like talismanic sources of your intelligence, drive, work ethic, and charisma. If they falter, you falter. Without a properly impressive transcript backing you up, no client will take you seriously. No judge will listen to your arguments.

You aren't anything but your grades. It would be preposterous for a firm to consider extending employment to somebody so worthless as a human being as to allow themselves to be marred with poor performance on a law school exam.

To be fair, this is how 1L grades/OCI works, so its understandable that people worry about the same thing 2L year. If a firm won't consider hiring you with a GPA below a certain amount why wouldn't they refuse to hire you after the summer.

Obviously the firm invests a lot in you over the summer, so if you do good work and fit in with everyone there is no reason to no-offer you because of grades. I'm just saying 1L PTSD makes people think grades are all that matter because that was true for one of the most stressful years of your life.

zomginternets wrote:
It's certainly an understandable fear to have for the reasons you described; we were more lamenting the fact that this is the 500th thread on this topic in the past week, and even the most cursory search would have revealed the answer for him.

G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, many judges are known to revoke clerkship offers if you coast 3L year. Even a 0.1 GPA drop has been known to trigger this reaction -- even smaller drops get you dinges at the COA level.

thesealocust wrote:

G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, many judges are known to revoke clerkship offers if you coast 3L year. Even a 0.1 GPA drop has been known to trigger this reaction -- even smaller drops get you dinges at the COA level.

Yep, definitely heard of this happening. At least they're not as bad as Gibson Dunn, who generally require grades to go up 2L year to receive an offer.

Fresh Prince wrote:Alright guys. The joke was killed right around post #3.

thesealocust wrote:

G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, many judges are known to revoke clerkship offers if you coast 3L year. Even a 0.1 GPA drop has been known to trigger this reaction -- even smaller drops get you dinges at the COA level.

Yep, definitely heard of this happening. At least they're not as bad as Gibson Dunn, who generally require grades to go up 2L year to receive an offer.

anon wrote:

thesealocust wrote:

G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, many judges are known to revoke clerkship offers if you coast 3L year. Even a 0.1 GPA drop has been known to trigger this reaction -- even smaller drops get you dinges at the COA level.

Yep, definitely heard of this happening. At least they're not as bad as Gibson Dunn, who generally require grades to go up 2L year to receive an offer.

Former GDC SA here...stop being ridiculous. They barely require 1L grades if they like you. I wasn't even asked for my transcript after last summer, nor were the other SAs in my office.

Even more tellingly, GDC dropped below median at my T6 for summer offers this year (and, gasp, for non-URMs), so this "OMG Gibson cares about grades so much" nonsense should probably stop.

Anonymous User wrote:

anon wrote:

thesealocust wrote:

G. T. L. Rev. wrote:Also, many judges are known to revoke clerkship offers if you coast 3L year. Even a 0.1 GPA drop has been known to trigger this reaction -- even smaller drops get you dinges at the COA level.

Yep, definitely heard of this happening. At least they're not as bad as Gibson Dunn, who generally require grades to go up 2L year to receive an offer.

Former GDC SA here...stop being ridiculous. They barely require 1L grades if they like you. I wasn't even asked for my transcript after last summer, nor were the other SAs in my office.

Even more tellingly, GDC dropped below median at my T6 for summer offers this year (and, gasp, for non-URMs), so this "OMG Gibson cares about grades so much" nonsense should probably stop.

I'm the anon immediately above: Gibson cares much more about fit than most on this board are willing to admit.

shmoo597 wrote:
The GDC thing is a perfect example of the blind leading the blind. How many times has that been parroted on TLS? How many people have any first hand knowledge of this actually being true? It was said once, was repeated, and then bam, it became the conventional wisdom. Who the fuck knows if its actually true.

That being said, if your grades drop .1-.2 at any v50 firm you will probably be no offered.

InGoodFaith wrote:As a 0L, I'm terrified because I can't tell if you are all trolling him or being completely serious

thesealocust wrote:

InGoodFaith wrote:As a 0L, I'm terrified because I can't tell if you are all trolling him or being completely serious

Trolling. Lots of trolling.

Except the Gibson Dunn stuff. At my school if you get any B+s or lower, at any time during or before law school (going back to middle school), you are ineligible to interview with them (or keep a job if they had accidentally given you one before you shamed yourself)

Citizen Genet wrote:

shmoo597 wrote:
The GDC thing is a perfect example of the blind leading the blind. How many times has that been parroted on TLS? How many people have any first hand knowledge of this actually being true? It was said once, was repeated, and then bam, it became the conventional wisdom. Who the fuck knows if its actually true.

That being said, if your grades drop .1-.2 at any v50 firm you will probably be no offered.

I think no offered is putting it lightly. You will be banned from applying to that firm ever again and they put your name on a V50 blacklist. Good luck toiling the rest of your days in the Tier 2 firm land.