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doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

jujujohn wrote:doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

What ABA rule says you can't get paid?

jujujohn wrote:doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

I'm guessing you lied to them and said you couldn't be paid under an ABA rule in order to convince them to give you a job? You're in a bad place if you did lie to them and you're going to have to suck it up unless you can phrase it as "I learned the ABA rule that I thought applied, actually doesn't".

LawIdiot86 wrote:

jujujohn wrote:doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

I'm guessing you lied to them and said you couldn't be paid under an ABA rule in order to convince them to give you a job? You're in a bad place if you did lie to them and you're going to have to suck it up unless you can phrase it as "I learned the ABA rule that I thought applied, actually doesn't".

in all honesty, i didn't lie, I found out about it afterwards and only b/c another firm asked if I can get reimbursed on rent/food etc. and there's a distinction, although a fine one it may be, between getting paid for a job(like a salary), and getting help in paying out of pocket expenses such as rent and travel expenses.

and I suspected ppl will get a bad taste from this (strange) fact pattern and what you said confirms this, so thanks!

what is this

jujujohn wrote:

LawIdiot86 wrote:

jujujohn wrote:doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

I'm guessing you lied to them and said you couldn't be paid under an ABA rule in order to convince them to give you a job? You're in a bad place if you did lie to them and you're going to have to suck it up unless you can phrase it as "I learned the ABA rule that I thought applied, actually doesn't".

in all honesty, i didn't lie, I found out about it afterwards and only b/c another firm asked if I can get reimbursed on rent/food etc. and there's a distinction, although a fine one it may be, between getting paid for a job(like a salary), and getting help in paying out of pocket expenses such as rent and travel expenses.

and I suspected ppl will get a bad taste from this (strange) fact pattern and what you said confirms this, so thanks!

If you found out afterwards, tell them that. Also, out of pocket expenses are not usually the rent incurred in a term internship. Is this a British training contract situation?

LawIdiot86 wrote:

jujujohn wrote:

LawIdiot86 wrote:

jujujohn wrote:doing an internship at a firm this coming spring semester, told them they can't pay me (ABA rule), but learned recently I can receive assistance (financially) on housing and travel (relocation) expenses, is it shady to ask for such money now? (2 months after I told them I will be working for free)?

thx and pls easy on the flame.

I'm guessing you lied to them and said you couldn't be paid under an ABA rule in order to convince them to give you a job? You're in a bad place if you did lie to them and you're going to have to suck it up unless you can phrase it as "I learned the ABA rule that I thought applied, actually doesn't".

in all honesty, i didn't lie, I found out about it afterwards and only b/c another firm asked if I can get reimbursed on rent/food etc. and there's a distinction, although a fine one it may be, between getting paid for a job(like a salary), and getting help in paying out of pocket expenses such as rent and travel expenses.

and I suspected ppl will get a bad taste from this (strange) fact pattern and what you said confirms this, so thanks!

If you found out afterwards, tell them that. Also, out of pocket expenses are not usually the rent incurred in a term internship. Is this a British training contract situation?

yes. but still shady no? it's not insignificant amount of money (to me), but i didn't want it to jeopardize the internship opportunity.

jujujohn wrote: yes. but still shady no? it's not insignificant amount of money (to me), but i didn't want it to jeopardize the internship opportunity.

Well, yes, it's shady because you told them one thing and now are asking for something that contradicts it. Depending on how firmly you attested to the non-existent ABA regulation, they may have trouble believing you discovered you were wrong earlier. If it would jeopardize the internship depends on how fervently you lied, how competitive they are and how much money is involved.

Unless you are prepared to renege on the whole arrangement, I wouldn't do it.

Why did you think you couldn't get paid for summer work? I know plenty of people with paid summer and semester jobs.

Anonymous User wrote:Why did you think you couldn't get paid for summer work? I know plenty of people with paid summer and semester jobs.

He's saying this is for a traineeship though in the UK. The summers are usually poorly paid, ~$300 a week, and I don't know what the semester is like. I assume OP thought he could make himself look better by looking self-sufficient and now wishes he hadn't.