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Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Better to include or exclude the Federalist Society (where person holds a position and is not just a generic member) from the resume when mass-mailing NYC biglaw firms?

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:49 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Better to include or exclude the Federalist Society (where person holds a position and is not just a generic member) from the resume when mass-mailing NYC biglaw firms?
Non-factor, so leave it on if you want. This isn't like applying to judicial clerkships.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:51 pm
by NinerFan
Anonymous User wrote:Better to include or exclude the Federalist Society (where person holds a position and is not just a generic member) from the resume when mass-mailing NYC biglaw firms?
Personally, I would leave it off unless you have something really cool you can talk about. I doubt anyone really cares, but there's always a slight chance you'll annoy someone.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:23 pm
by zomginternets
I think it's too political to put on there. People will immediately think you are a staunch conservative, and will judge you on it. Same reason as when your CSO told you never to discuss a political issue during an interview.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:44 pm
by Old Gregg
zomginternets wrote:I think it's too political to put on there. People will immediately think you are a staunch conservative, and will judge you on it. Same reason as when your CSO told you never to discuss a political issue during an interview.
Yeah, David Lat sure learned his lesson.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:49 pm
by Anonymous User
OFF!

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:07 pm
by NinerFan
Fresh Prince wrote:
zomginternets wrote:I think it's too political to put on there. People will immediately think you are a staunch conservative, and will judge you on it. Same reason as when your CSO told you never to discuss a political issue during an interview.
Yeah, David Lat sure learned his lesson.
If you go to Yale and clerk, it's just a wee bit different.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:09 pm
by IAFG
Why risk it?

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:20 pm
by Renzo
I think it's basically a non-issue, as it's unlikely to help or hurt much at all. If you have any other law school activities to pad the resume with, I'd use those and leave it off; if not, then I'd leave it on.

As an aside, I actually think that it's safer to have something on your resume that politically affiliates you with progressives than conservatives; not because you are more likely to find a like-minded interviewer, but because in my experience, Lefties are far more judge-ey and intolerant of political affiliations they don't like. In other words, I think you're better off sending an arch-conservative a resume with your ACLU membership on it than sending a similarly liberal person a resume with FedSoc on it.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:24 pm
by Old Gregg
NinerFan wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
zomginternets wrote:I think it's too political to put on there. People will immediately think you are a staunch conservative, and will judge you on it. Same reason as when your CSO told you never to discuss a political issue during an interview.
Yeah, David Lat sure learned his lesson.
If you go to Yale and clerk, it's just a wee bit different.
Worked at WLRK before he clerked...

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:36 pm
by IAFG
Fresh Prince wrote:
Worked at WLRK before he clerked...
No.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:48 pm
by NinerFan
Fresh Prince wrote:
NinerFan wrote:
Fresh Prince wrote:
zomginternets wrote:I think it's too political to put on there. People will immediately think you are a staunch conservative, and will judge you on it. Same reason as when your CSO told you never to discuss a political issue during an interview.
Yeah, David Lat sure learned his lesson.
If you go to Yale and clerk, it's just a wee bit different.
Worked at WLRK before he clerked...

See http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/techn ... gewanted=2

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:08 pm
by IAFG
At any rate, the "if a gay minority with 9th circuit/Wachtell credentials can associate himself with staunch conservatives and get away with it, I can too" rationale might not be the one to follow.

I am certainly not saying it will necessarily hurt you. Maybe someone saw "windsurfing" on my resume and immediately hated me because he likes to take his motorboat out on the weekend and windsurfers are always getting in his way. You never know what might irk someone, or make them take a liking to you. It just makes sense to leave off obviously divisive things.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:45 pm
by duckmoney
Would the "leave it off" general response be the same if you're on the board? Or does that make it worth it?

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:50 pm
by snailio
Who gives a double somersaulting flying rats ass. It's irrelevant, no one will care.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:52 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
Don't put anything on a resume that is divisive.
Politics is divisive.
Don't include politics on a resume.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:55 pm
by IAFG
duckmoney wrote:Would the "leave it off" general response be the same if you're on the board? Or does that make it worth it?
Why would a stronger commitment to a divisive group be better??

Also, people list orgs that they don't have positions for? Just like, "member"? Really?

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:56 pm
by buckilaw
If political affiliation is enough to tilt your app one way or the other wouldn't you have to be an incredibly marginal candidate to begin with? I don't see how political affiliation could affect your work product, especially doing stuff like doc review or due diligence.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:58 pm
by c3pO4
IAFG wrote:At any rate, the "if a gay minority with 9th circuit/Wachtell credentials can associate himself with staunch conservatives and get away with it, I can too" rationale might not be the one to follow.

I am certainly not saying it will necessarily hurt you. Maybe someone saw "windsurfing" on my resume and immediately hated me because he likes to take his motorboat out on the weekend and windsurfers are always getting in his way. You never know what might irk someone, or make them take a liking to you. It just makes sense to leave off obviously divisive things.
ya this is mad true. i put fantasy football league champ on my resume and at one firm, it was a great talking point. at another, a partner got REALLY pissed because he had never won in their office league in over 10 years and started talking shit.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:59 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:At any rate, the "if a gay minority with 9th circuit/Wachtell credentials can associate himself with staunch conservatives and get away with it, I can too" rationale might not be the one to follow.

I am certainly not saying it will necessarily hurt you. Maybe someone saw "windsurfing" on my resume and immediately hated me because he likes to take his motorboat out on the weekend and windsurfers are always getting in his way. You never know what might irk someone, or make them take a liking to you. It just makes sense to leave off obviously divisive things.
ya this is mad true. i put fantasy football league champ on my resume and at one firm, it was a great talking point. at another, a partner got REALLY pissed because he had never won in their office league in over 10 years and started talking shit.
Stop. Just stop.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:02 am
by c3pO4
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:At any rate, the "if a gay minority with 9th circuit/Wachtell credentials can associate himself with staunch conservatives and get away with it, I can too" rationale might not be the one to follow.

I am certainly not saying it will necessarily hurt you. Maybe someone saw "windsurfing" on my resume and immediately hated me because he likes to take his motorboat out on the weekend and windsurfers are always getting in his way. You never know what might irk someone, or make them take a liking to you. It just makes sense to leave off obviously divisive things.
ya this is mad true. i put fantasy football league champ on my resume and at one firm, it was a great talking point. at another, a partner got REALLY pissed because he had never won in their office league in over 10 years and started talking shit.
Stop. Just stop.
haters gonna hate. my story was serious even if you think my language is inglorious. u stop, mr. came into this thread just to tell somebody else to stop. why don't you contribute to the discussion or gtfo?

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:14 am
by MrPapagiorgio
c3pO4 wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:
IAFG wrote:At any rate, the "if a gay minority with 9th circuit/Wachtell credentials can associate himself with staunch conservatives and get away with it, I can too" rationale might not be the one to follow.

I am certainly not saying it will necessarily hurt you. Maybe someone saw "windsurfing" on my resume and immediately hated me because he likes to take his motorboat out on the weekend and windsurfers are always getting in his way. You never know what might irk someone, or make them take a liking to you. It just makes sense to leave off obviously divisive things.
ya this is mad true. i put fantasy football league champ on my resume and at one firm, it was a great talking point. at another, a partner got REALLY pissed because he had never won in their office league in over 10 years and started talking shit.
Stop. Just stop.
haters gonna hate. my story was serious even if you think my language is inglorious. u stop, mr. came into this thread just to tell somebody else to stop. why don't you contribute to the discussion or gtfo?
I did. Try reading a few posts above.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:16 am
by c3pO4
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
I did. Try reading a few posts above.
ok. i retract.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:20 am
by Bildungsroman
IAFG wrote:
Also, people list orgs that they don't have positions for? Just like, "member"? Really?
"Frequent Participant in Free Lunches, ________ Society.

Re: Federalist Society & NYC BigLaw

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:43 am
by npe
buckilaw wrote:If political affiliation is enough to tilt your app one way or the other wouldn't you have to be an incredibly marginal candidate to begin with? I don't see how political affiliation could affect your work product, especially doing stuff like doc review or due diligence.
Dude, everyone's a marginal candidate ITE.