Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:51 am
Does the opportunity of getting a big law job exist anymore? I have a little while until I graduate (c/o 2014) but I am still always curious about the legal market.
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Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:52 am
Yes, the opportunity exists.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:52 am
From anywhere? Sure. Many people in the T14 get them at OCI every year.4gttngBrandonMarshal wrote:Does the opportunity of getting a big law job exist anymore? I have a little while until I graduate (c/o 2014) but I am still always curious about the legal market.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:54 am
Wtf is this question asking?
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:59 am
mostly top 14, but if you are top 10% at a top 30 or so or a well perceived regional it might happen.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:03 pm
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Yes.
Work on your questions.
Yes.
Work on your questions.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:03 pm
It happens, but we need more information if you are looking for advice (re: specifically, what law school, where do you have ties, and what market are you looking at finding a job in).4gttngBrandonMarshal wrote:Does the opportunity of getting a big law job exist anymore? I have a little while until I graduate (c/o 2014) but I am still always curious about the legal market.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:07 pm
NO.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:17 pm
From a TTT? Yes, if you're #1 in your class.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:19 pm
You didn't get the memo Op. Biglaw closed its doors. The whole fucking thing. Its all over. Killself = only option.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:28 pm
You went to a TTT with your heart set on transferring and getting biglaw?4gttngBrandonMarshal wrote:Does the opportunity of getting a big law job exist anymore? I have a little while until I graduate (c/o 2014) but I am still always curious about the legal market.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:36 pm
OP is at a school below 100. Forget about biglaw, try to get strait A's. One step at a time. The odds are incredibly stacked against OP.Indifferent wrote:You went to a TTT with your heart set on transferring and getting biglaw?4gttngBrandonMarshal wrote:Does the opportunity of getting a big law job exist anymore? I have a little while until I graduate (c/o 2014) but I am still always curious about the legal market.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:40 pm
It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:44 pm
Wow.Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Not quite true, although that's probably how you should treat it when choosing a law school.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:47 pm
This is stupid. There is no cutoff at 25. If anything, there is a drop off after 30. The point is, outside the T14, it's a lot harder and it gets progressively harder as you go down the list.Indifferent wrote:Wow.Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Not quite true, although that's probably how you should treat it when choosing a law school.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:47 pm
I'd say about 10% of students outside the Top 30 get biglaw jobs (maybe besides a school like Fordham)Indifferent wrote:Wow.Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Not quite true, although that's probably how you should treat it when choosing a law school.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:48 pm
No love for Cornell huh?Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
T14s that place primarily in NY are probably your best bet for biglaw (barring Stanford of course.)
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:51 pm
Lawyer math logic: 10% = no chance.kams wrote:I'd say about 10% of students outside the Top 30 get biglaw jobs (maybe besides a school like Fordham)Indifferent wrote:Wow.Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Not quite true, although that's probably how you should treat it when choosing a law school.
Flawless victory.
Seriously though, going to a non-T14 with your heart set on biglaw is a poor decision.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 pm
0L logic: 10% = It will be me because I'm speciaaaaal.Indifferent wrote:
Lawyer math logic: 10% = no chance.
Flawless victory.
Epic fail.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 pm
Accidental anon - me aboveAnonymous User wrote:0L logic: 10% = It will be me because I'm speciaaaaal.Indifferent wrote:
Lawyer math logic: 10% = no chance.
Flawless victory.
Epic fail.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 pm
TCR. OP, no one gets a job anymore in biglaw. Just the other day I was in Manhattan and I saw Herb Wachtell and Marty Lipton leap to their deaths while a crowd heckled below. Midtown was a hellish scene, as recently laid of junior associates fought like dingos over discarded bagel remnants while security guards handed them their office tchotchkes in boxes bearing Skadden and SullCrom logos. The former office shrews were resorted to pimping their plump, pasty bodies somewhere in the outer boroughs. The lucky senior associates and junior partners could be found enjoying King Cobras and passing out in the gutters. However, I saw the naked body of a young junior associate in an alley, his Jos. A. Bank suit had long since been looted for halal money. A 24 year old ibanker walked by and spat contemptuously. So yes, Biglaw is dead; I recommend killself.reasonable_man wrote:You didn't get the memo Op. Biglaw closed its doors. The whole fucking thing. Its all over. Killself = only option.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:57 pm
Credited.Anonymous User wrote:0L logic: 10% = It will be me because I'm speciaaaaal.Indifferent wrote:
Lawyer math logic: 10% = no chance.
Flawless victory.
Epic fail.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:02 pm
Grizz wrote:TCR. OP, no one gets a job anymore in biglaw. Just the other day I was in Manhattan and I saw Herb Wachtell and Marty Lipton leap to their deaths while a crowd heckled below. Midtown was a hellish scene, as recently laid of junior associates fought like dingos over discarded bagel remnants while security guards handed them their office tchotchkes in boxes bearing Skadden and SullCrom logos. The former office shrews were resorted to pimping their plump, pasty bodies somewhere in the outer boroughs. The lucky senior associates and junior partners could be found enjoying King Cobras and passing out in the gutters. However, I saw the naked body of a young junior associate in an alley, his Jos. A. Bank suit had long since been looted for halal money. A 24 year old ibanker walked by and spat contemptuously. So yes, Biglaw is dead; I recommend killself.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:03 pm
QFAwesomeGrizz wrote:TCR. OP, no one gets a job anymore in biglaw. Just the other day I was in Manhattan and I saw Herb Wachtell and Marty Lipton leap to their deaths while a crowd heckled below. Midtown was a hellish scene, as recently laid of junior associates fought like dingos over discarded bagel remnants while security guards handed them their office tchotchkes in boxes bearing Skadden and SullCrom logos. The former office shrews were resorted to pimping their plump, pasty bodies somewhere in the outer boroughs. The lucky senior associates and junior partners could be found enjoying King Cobras and passing out in the gutters. However, I saw the naked body of a young junior associate in an alley, his Jos. A. Bank suit had long since been looted for halal money. A 24 year old ibanker walked by and spat contemptuously. So yes, Biglaw is dead; I recommend killself.reasonable_man wrote:You didn't get the memo Op. Biglaw closed its doors. The whole fucking thing. Its all over. Killself = only option.
Re: Big Law
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:03 pm
9 out of 10 students not getting biglaw = probably no chance with a few exceptions?Indifferent wrote:Lawyer math logic: 10% = no chance.kams wrote:I'd say about 10% of students outside the Top 30 get biglaw jobs (maybe besides a school like Fordham)Indifferent wrote:Wow.Anonymous User wrote:It exists, but you only have a good shot at getting biglaw at a certain schools. I'd say good chance at top 10, decent chance at top 11-14, and possible chance at 15-25. Probably no chance from most other places with a few exceptions.
Not quite true, although that's probably how you should treat it when choosing a law school.
Flawless victory.
Seriously though, going to a non-T14 with your heart set on biglaw is a poor decision.
I think so.