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4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:14 pm
by Anonymous User
I heard a rumor that a student from UIUC with a science/engineering background got a 2L summer patent position with an offer of about $4k/week. Can anybody confirm? Anybody know the firm?

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:23 pm
by wiseowl
Given UIUC's reputation for number reporting recently, I'd be a little reluctant to believe.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:37 pm
by CanadianWolf
Probably a 4L at 2K a week--but anything is possible. :D

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:39 pm
by Wavelet
Wachtell's doing patent lit now?

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:56 pm
by TheFriendlyBarber
True. $3,000 is certainly "about $4,000."

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:58 pm
by Bildungsroman
NY TO 190!

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:05 pm
by Doritos
wiseowl wrote:Given UIUC's reputation for number reporting recently, I'd be a little reluctant to believe.
lol

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:02 am
by Anonymous User
OP here.

No, it was far closer to 4K than 3K. 2L from UIUC who landed the standard ~3k/wk market salary said he overheard this and stopped listening because he was upset that this guy with lower grades had an easier time finding a job and was making more money.
It is probably not WC. Think it was an EE patent spot.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:22 am
by TheFriendlyBarber
Anonymous User wrote:OP here.

No, it was far closer to 4K than 3K. 2L from UIUC who landed the standard ~3k/wk market salary said he overheard this and stopped listening because he was upset that this guy with lower grades had an easier time finding a job and was making more money.
It is probably not WC. Think it was an EE patent spot.
What does it matter? If it's true, good for him. If it's a lie, then he's a sad, little man. All you can do, really, is wish him well and be on your way . . . or just be on your way. And if you're asking because you too want a piece of that $4000/wk pie, then walk up to the guy and ask him what firm he'll be working for next summer. I'm sure he'll be glad to disclose.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:33 pm
by Anonymous User
Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:40 pm
by Kabuo
wiseowl wrote:Given UIUC's reputation for number reporting recently, I'd be a little reluctant to believe.
180.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:53 pm
by showNprove
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago
By 3800, I think you mean 3100.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:25 pm
by Anonymous User
4K/week is possible, even likely, if they've previously worked or are currently working as a patent agent / tech spec for the firm. At my firm, former tech specs that the firm puts through law school start as 3rd-4th year associates. Certain PhD or MD candidates also get to start at 3rd year patent agents, even without having worked at the firm.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:28 pm
by Anonymous User
If he worked as a patent agent before law school, they may be planning to hire him as the equivalent of a third or fourth year associate and are paying him accordingly for the summer. Some IP firms do that in order to get people who have serious patent experience before law school as that experience is very rare and extremely valuable (essentially eliminates the training period for a new patent associate, so the firm will make money on him immediately).

Whoops, missed the anon above me saying the same thing.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago
I guess you mean the bi-weekly paycheck.

After tax, the bi-weekly pay is around $3789, if your pay rate is 3072-3100 per week.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:40 pm
by erico
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago
I guess you mean the bi-weekly paycheck.

After tax, the bi-weekly pay is around $3789, if your pay rate is 3072-3100 per week.
That's a lot of tax...

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:43 pm
by Anonymous User
erico wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago
I guess you mean the bi-weekly paycheck.

After tax, the bi-weekly pay is around $3789, if your pay rate is 3072-3100 per week.
That's a lot of tax...
Yeah, way more than an SA would be paying. Your annual income is still only ~$30k. Now, that's probably closer to the truth for an associate making $160k a year.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:44 pm
by tlstlstls73
erico wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day pays almost 3800 a week---at least in Chicago
I guess you mean the bi-weekly paycheck.

After tax, the bi-weekly pay is around $3789, if your pay rate is 3072-3100 per week.
That's a lot of tax...
We are the 99%!

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:45 pm
by Bosque
Anonymous User wrote:4K/week is possible, even likely, if they've previously worked or are currently working as a patent agent / tech spec for the firm. At my firm, former tech specs that the firm puts through law school start as 3rd-4th year associates. Certain PhD or MD candidates also get to start at 3rd year patent agents, even without having worked at the firm.
This is news to me. I've heard of getting a bonus as a PhD, NEVER heard of seniority jumping.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:59 pm
by DCDuck
That's a lot of tax...[/quote]

Yeah, way more than an SA would be paying. Your annual income is still only ~$30k. Now, that's probably closer to the truth for an associate making $160k a year.[/quote]

You get taxed during your summer at the same rate as the associates (a very high rate). Because you only make $32,000 for the year, though, you get a big refund. Take home pay will be about $4000/bi weekly, then a nice refund later.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:23 pm
by beaverfuzz
Or, if you don't like the idea of giving the government an interest-free loan, take more deductions.

Re: 4k/wk 2L offer rumor

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:44 pm
by 03121202698008
beaverfuzz wrote:Or, if you don't like the idea of giving the government an interest-free loan, take more deductions.
I think you mean exemptions as in the W4...a good deal of difference.

Also, according to the IRS witholding calculator, about 15 exemptions will give you a $150 return if you have no other income.