What does someone have to do to be the only no offer out of a class of ~55?f7u12 wrote:TBF, I heard that he earned it.Anonymous User wrote:Debevoise NYC no offered 1 person.
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Use your imagination.RW65 wrote:What does someone have to do to be the only no offer out of a class of ~55?f7u12 wrote:TBF, I heard that he earned it.Anonymous User wrote:Debevoise NYC no offered 1 person.
Generally, it's going to have to be particularly egregious conduct. Merely messing up on something, or turning in a somewhat shoddy memo, isn't going to cause problems. Firms generally have lower expectations for the actual capabilities of their SAs, and it's not like any of their work product is billable anyway; most often, everything is written off by the supervising partner.
The usual suspects are obvious: absurd drinking at parties, showing up to work hungover, skipping out early, showing up late, not turning in assignments, having a terrible personality/attitude (and really, it would have to be an abomination of a personality), etc.
I'd imagine that the 1/55th either performed some incredible social faux pas at a firm event, or just didn't turn in even somewhat presentable work product. Those are the two usual reasons.
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I don't know about really famous biglaw firms.
I remember hearing the hiring partners of a mid-sized firm (or regional biglaw based in minnesota) who told us that they had 2 SAs for the summer of 2009 at a local office and they planned to offer only one of them in the end. so, regardless of how well the two of them performed and presented themselves, one of them would be no-offered.
I remember hearing the hiring partners of a mid-sized firm (or regional biglaw based in minnesota) who told us that they had 2 SAs for the summer of 2009 at a local office and they planned to offer only one of them in the end. so, regardless of how well the two of them performed and presented themselves, one of them would be no-offered.
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I'd add that at Debevoise (and other firms), as a matter of policy they will warn you in your mid-summer review and give you a chance to correct it before they give out no-offers. So it's not like it's out of the blue, or that you might not know anything's wrong.Machine Spirit wrote:I'd imagine that the 1/55th either performed some incredible social faux pas at a firm event, or just didn't turn in even somewhat presentable work product. Those are the two usual reasons.RW65 wrote:What does someone have to do to be the only no offer out of a class of ~55?f7u12 wrote:TBF, I heard that he earned it.Anonymous User wrote:Debevoise NYC no offered 1 person.
Also, several people at PW seem to believe that the firm cold offered at least one SA this summer.
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I've heard the same re PW.
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