Cold offer? Forum

[blurbz]

Thanks all. Don't think I ran into any of the above problems, but maybe I ran over some partner's pet cat or something without knowing it? My mid-summer evals didn't mention anything problematic.

EAP is for alcohol abuse, drug abuse, or depression. If you didn't look depressed, maybe you looked like you were high as a kite?

He was probably high as a Georgia pine.

So they want him to get help before he ends up buying the farm?

It's been a year, but I still remember this case.

Love it.

[clintonius]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

[IAFG]

Think hard: did you use baby powder or baking soda on or around your desk and do a bad job cleaning up?

[mrloblaw]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

I'm betting that ITE, they have to be pretty clear, lest they be accepted. You have to get at least a couple of paychecks before they can lay you off, right?

[clintonius]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

I'm betting that ITE, they have to be pretty clear, lest they be accepted. You have to get at least a couple of paychecks before they can lay you off, right?

So with an 80% acceptance rate, what does that tell you?

[imchuckbass58]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

Yet several V10s continue to do this.

[traydeuce]

So I've never worked at a firm so I know nothing about this topic, but if some of the hypos people are throwing out were the case, he simply wouldn't have been offered, right? It seems weird that there's this gray area where they can be worried enough about an SA's demeanor to suggest he seek assistance, and yet pleased enough with him to make him an associate.

[mrloblaw]

So I've never worked at a firm so I know nothing about this topic, but if some of the hypos people are throwing out were the case, he simply wouldn't have been offered, right? It seems weird that there's this gray area where they can be worried enough about an SA's demeanor to suggest he seek assistance, and yet pleased enough with him to make him an associate.

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Yet somehow, unless OP badly misheard something, that seems to be the case.

Quite the mystery we have on our hands!

[rayiner]

People saying it's a cold offer are wrong. They tell you to consider other options, even if they don't say "you can accept." And they don't congratulate you.

What happened is hiring committee gave him an offer based on he feedback in his file. One person must've said something along the lines of "OP's work was fine but he came into a meeting visibly hung over." Hence referral to employee assistance.

[dood]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

so...would u rather have a no-offer? b/c a cold offer is a condolence.

[Aqualibrium]

was told by a partner that when they cold offer they make it very explicit - like "we are extending you an offer, but we think you will be much happier at another firm"

ironically, he also said that about 80% of cold offers actually ended up coming back. so worse case scenario, even if you are cold offered you can still accept it.

This doesn't sound like a true cold offer to me. My understanding is that a cold offer is not welcome back. It's an offer in name only, and not in reality.

An explicit cold-offer is basically a contradiction in terms. NALP has explicitly (see the true definition of the word) denounced the practice, so any firm making a clear cold offer would be committing a no-no.

You seriously think NALP guidelines matter at all?