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title edited to try and stem the tide of "douche" accusations.

How many? Where? What is your school/stats?

Vault range for firms? Do you have Aspergers?

lulz at thread title

Who is awesome?

blurbz wrote:How many? Where? What is your school/stats?

6 CBs. NYC market. T14, 10%, LR.

Anonymous User wrote:Vault range for firms? Do you have Aspergers?

V10. No Aspergers.

IrwinM.Fletcher wrote:lulz at thread title

Double lulz.

Anonymous User wrote:
No Aspergers.

/thread

Is it difficult to get through doors with such a large head?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:
No Aspergers.

/thread

LOL.

OP here, mostly doing this for ppl who have interviewing Qs. Apparently I'm all right at those.

I object to the OP being anonymous. The only verifiable information given is evidence of douchebaggery, which far from outs you on these forums. For example:

I object to the OP being anonymous. The only verifiable information given is evidence of douchebaggery, which far from outs you on these forums. For example:

GertrudePerkins wrote:Is it difficult to get through doors with such a large head?

Srsly, just wanna help.

terribleperson wrote:I object to the OP being anonymous. The only verifiable information given is evidence of douchebaggery, which far from outs you on these forums. For example:

I object to the OP being anonymous. The only verifiable information given is evidence of douchebaggery, which far from outs you on these forums. For example:

Pretty sure my username has been outed.

Okay, I'll give you a shot.

Do you concentrate on selling or having a regular conversation with interviewers? On two of my three CBs so far, I've just had good conversations and I really enjoyed the interviews, but I haven't heard back from anyone yet, so I always wonder if I'm doing it right!

This:

Anonymous User wrote:6 CBs. NYC market. T14, 10%, LR.

Removes any usefulness of this:

Anonymous User wrote:doing this for ppl who have interviewing Qs. Apparently I'm all right at those.

Oops, didn't mean for the previous post ^ to be anonymous.

Are you typically an outgoing person? That's been my struggle so far. Despite my grades, I'm a pretty shy, introverted person, and I think that gets interpreted as disinterest or lack of enthusiasm. I'm not bubbly and constantly smiling, but I don't think I'm coming off as a dick, either. Sorry for the monologue; with similar grades, I'm just wondering the difference between you and me.

Questions!!! OMG I never know what to ask. Most of my questions are answered by the glossy materials. And what I really want to know- what it's like to work there- is not something anyone will be able to answer. That's something you get from multiple conversations and observing crap. They all give the same answer. Laid back, collegial etc.

Ok awesome interviewer guy, describe your interviewing style.

I have the same stats as you and things aren't going so hot. I'm a laid back, easygoing person, and several interviewers have commented on that without me bringing it up. Yet, I have no offers and am likely to receive my first CB ding soon. What gives?

Are you the one who got the Mayer and Sidley offers on the same day as the callbacks?

Did you hit it off with the hiring partner at each cb, or were there some cb's where you did well with everyone else, but sub-par with hiring partner?

Are you more jock-ish or nerdy? Personality types you encountered most on the cb's?

Corporate or lit?

blurbz wrote:Okay, I'll give you a shot.

Do you concentrate on selling or having a regular conversation with interviewers? On two of my three CBs so far, I've just had good conversations and I really enjoyed the interviews, but I haven't heard back from anyone yet, so I always wonder if I'm doing it right!

I think the trick is to sell yourself without making it obvious. Work positive things about yourself and your experiences into the conversation. I had a few stories that I told over and over in interviews about things I'd done over the summer/other personal experiences that highlighted an item on my resume while also showcasing my personality.

Anonymous User wrote:Are you typically an outgoing person? That's been my struggle so far. Despite my grades, I'm a pretty shy, introverted person, and I think that gets interpreted as disinterest or lack of enthusiasm. I'm not bubbly and constantly smiling, but I don't think I'm coming off as a dick, either. Sorry for the monologue; with similar grades, I'm just wondering the difference between you and me.

I am relatively introverted as well, but I do well in one-on-one conversations (not as well in groups). Practice, practice, practice. Come out of your shell a little bit. It is OK to be shy, but it is not OK to sell yourself short - in your own mind, or to an interviewer. Make sure that when you are talking about the things you care about you allow yourself to let go a little bit and really let your feelings come through. I think that the trick in interviewing is to be genuine. Be nervous, but not frightened; be sure of yourself. You are awesome, which is why you snagged the interview.

I worked with a guy this summer who was pretty shy and reserved, but when you got him going about something he really cared about he became animated and full of personality. That is what you want to do in this interview. Forget about the fact that a job is on the line and open up.

Anonymous User wrote:Questions!!! OMG I never know what to ask. Most of my questions are answered by the glossy materials. And what I really want to know- what it's like to work there- is not something anyone will be able to answer. That's something you get from multiple conversations and observing crap. They all give the same answer. Laid back, collegial etc.

If you ask the question "what is it like to work here?" you will get a stock answer - not because the interviewer is trying to put a shiny face on things, but because stock answers are the easiest answers to think of when answering a super-general question like that. Attack it from different angles. "What is your favorite thing about working at Firm X?" or "What is one thing you would change about Firm X if you could?" are good starting points. Try to drill down and ask more detailed questions; you'll get more nuanced answers.

Also, find out one thing about the firm that is different or unusual. This will require more homework than a visit to the firm website. If the firm is especially well-regarded in one area, ask how that area developed and how Interviewer X thinks that area will continue to grow and change in the future (this is especially good if you are talking to a partner). Think outside of this context as well - has the firm recently hired a major lateral? undergone a merger? opened a new office? What is the firm's in-house training like? Etc. Penetrating questions that show you've not only read the available materials about the firm, but really given them some thought.

Anonymous User wrote:Ok awesome interviewer guy, describe your interviewing style.

I have the same stats as you and things aren't going so hot. I'm a laid back, easygoing person, and several interviewers have commented on that without me bringing it up. Yet, I have no offers and am likely to receive my first CB ding soon. What gives?

Can you give me some more detail about the content of your interviews?

Anonymous User wrote:Are you the one who got the Mayer and Sidley offers on the same day as the callbacks?

No, I didn't interview there.

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Did you hit it off with the hiring partner at each cb, or were there some cb's where you did well with everyone else, but sub-par with hiring partner?

Are you more jock-ish or nerdy? Personality types you encountered most on the cb's?

Corporate or lit?

Honestly, I felt like I hit it off with pretty much everyone I met with. The key in that regard is being able to read the person sitting across from you and figuring out how to present yourself to them in the best light - the light that particular person wants. Is your interviewer outgoing and effusive, or quiet and reserved? Tailor not only your questions and answers, but also your body language and facial expressions to their cues.

I consider myself a happy medium between jockish and nerdy. I guess maybe a cool nerd, if that makes sense? Not a sports person, a book lover, a partier, but also a big fan of school. Especially law school, lame as that sounds.

Personality types were varied. I had a lot of friendly, outgoing associates and partners, some hard-ass partners, some reserved, old-school partners - again, it's all about reading the person you are interviewing with.

I'm leaning lit.

Anonymous User wrote:

blurbz wrote:Okay, I'll give you a shot.

Do you concentrate on selling or having a regular conversation with interviewers? On two of my three CBs so far, I've just had good conversations and I really enjoyed the interviews, but I haven't heard back from anyone yet, so I always wonder if I'm doing it right!

I think the trick is to sell yourself without making it obvious. Work positive things about yourself and your experiences into the conversation. I had a few stories that I told over and over in interviews about things I'd done over the summer/other personal experiences that highlighted an item on my resume while also showcasing my personality.

Anonymous User wrote:Are you typically an outgoing person? That's been my struggle so far. Despite my grades, I'm a pretty shy, introverted person, and I think that gets interpreted as disinterest or lack of enthusiasm. I'm not bubbly and constantly smiling, but I don't think I'm coming off as a dick, either. Sorry for the monologue; with similar grades, I'm just wondering the difference between you and me.

I am relatively introverted as well, but I do well in one-on-one conversations (not as well in groups). Practice, practice, practice. Come out of your shell a little bit. It is OK to be shy, but it is not OK to sell yourself short - in your own mind, or to an interviewer. Make sure that when you are talking about the things you care about you allow yourself to let go a little bit and really let your feelings come through. I think that the trick in interviewing is to be genuine. Be nervous, but not frightened; be sure of yourself. You are awesome, which is why you snagged the interview.

I worked with a guy this summer who was pretty shy and reserved, but when you got him going about something he really cared about he became animated and full of personality. That is what you want to do in this interview. Forget about the fact that a job is on the line and open up.

Anonymous User wrote:Questions!!! OMG I never know what to ask. Most of my questions are answered by the glossy materials. And what I really want to know- what it's like to work there- is not something anyone will be able to answer. That's something you get from multiple conversations and observing crap. They all give the same answer. Laid back, collegial etc.

If you ask the question "what is it like to work here?" you will get a stock answer - not because the interviewer is trying to put a shiny face on things, but because stock answers are the easiest answers to think of when answering a super-general question like that. Attack it from different angles. "What is your favorite thing about working at Firm X?" or "What is one thing you would change about Firm X if you could?" are good starting points. Try to drill down and ask more detailed questions; you'll get more nuanced answers.

Also, find out one thing about the firm that is different or unusual. This will require more homework than a visit to the firm website. If the firm is especially well-regarded in one area, ask how that area developed and how Interviewer X thinks that area will continue to grow and change in the future (this is especially good if you are talking to a partner). Think outside of this context as well - has the firm recently hired a major lateral? undergone a merger? opened a new office? What is the firm's in-house training like? Etc. Penetrating questions that show you've not only read the available materials about the firm, but really given them some thought.

Anonymous User wrote:Ok awesome interviewer guy, describe your interviewing style.

I have the same stats as you and things aren't going so hot. I'm a laid back, easygoing person, and several interviewers have commented on that without me bringing it up. Yet, I have no offers and am likely to receive my first CB ding soon. What gives?

Can you give me some more detail about the content of your interviews?

Anonymous User wrote:Are you the one who got the Mayer and Sidley offers on the same day as the callbacks?

No, I didn't interview there.

Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Did you hit it off with the hiring partner at each cb, or were there some cb's where you did well with everyone else, but sub-par with hiring partner?

Are you more jock-ish or nerdy? Personality types you encountered most on the cb's?

Corporate or lit?

Honestly, I felt like I hit it off with pretty much everyone I met with. The key in that regard is being able to read the person sitting across from you and figuring out how to present yourself to them in the best light - the light that particular person wants. Is your interviewer outgoing and effusive, or quiet and reserved? Tailor not only your questions and answers, but also your body language and facial expressions to their cues.

I consider myself a happy medium between jockish and nerdy. I guess maybe a cool nerd, if that makes sense? Not a sports person, a book lover, a partier, but also a big fan of school. Especially law school, lame as that sounds.

Personality types were varied. I had a lot of friendly, outgoing associates and partners, some hard-ass partners, some reserved, old-school partners - again, it's all about reading the person you are interviewing with.

I'm leaning lit.

Are you having a hard time deciding which firm to pick?

Anonymous User wrote:
Are you having a hard time deciding which firm to pick?

I have it narrowed down to two. I'm leaning hard toward one of them right now. It is definitely hard to pick, but I'm indecisive and can argue the pros and cons of things back and forth to self-stalemate. I think in the end I'll go with my gut, cliche as that is.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:
Are you having a hard time deciding which firm to pick?

I have it narrowed down to two. I'm leaning hard toward one of them right now. It is definitely hard to pick, but I'm indecisive and can argue the pros and cons of things back and forth to self-stalemate. I think in the end I'll go with my gut, cliche as that is.

Care to share what the 2 firms are? I would also be interested in hearing the pros and cons if you don't want to state the firm names.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:
Are you having a hard time deciding which firm to pick?

I have it narrowed down to two. I'm leaning hard toward one of them right now. It is definitely hard to pick, but I'm indecisive and can argue the pros and cons of things back and forth to self-stalemate. I think in the end I'll go with my gut, cliche as that is.

Care to share what the 2 firms are? I would also be interested in hearing the pros and cons if you don't want to state the firm names.

I'd rather not. But I will say, stated at a high level of generality, that I am basically looking at two different places that fit two different sides of my personality perfectly, and I'm trying to decide which side is more "me." That probably isn't much specific help, but it's the truth. Do you have a similar choice looming?

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:
Are you having a hard time deciding which firm to pick?

I have it narrowed down to two. I'm leaning hard toward one of them right now. It is definitely hard to pick, but I'm indecisive and can argue the pros and cons of things back and forth to self-stalemate. I think in the end I'll go with my gut, cliche as that is.

Care to share what the 2 firms are? I would also be interested in hearing the pros and cons if you don't want to state the firm names.

I'd rather not. But I will say, stated at a high level of generality, that I am basically looking at two different places that fit two different sides of my personality perfectly, and I'm trying to decide which side is more "me." That probably isn't much specific help, but it's the truth. Do you have a similar choice looming?

The choice you are facing and the way you're deciding seem oddly similar to the problem I'm facing. I wonder if they are the same firms.