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Cornell?Anonymous User wrote:T14.
Just to check, these are BAD decision, right?Anonymous User wrote:T14. I had a conversation with a student who was bidding 5 markets (including CA and TX without ties), paying strict attention to the grade information firms give on Symplicity, and only starting to massmail over the next few weeks. How are things in your neck of the woods?
Lawyers (and lawyers-to-be) are a cautious bunch.Anonymous User wrote:T14 kids mass mail? I thought that was only for people who don't have a good OCI at their schools. What is the point for someone who is going to get like 20 interviews with big firms on campus?
not a dumb question. but there are three good responses..theturkeyisfat wrote:this is probably a dumb question, but.. what's wrong with bidding on 5 markets (if you do have ties)?
i think i could work around the first two points, but the third one is huge.. interesting.englawyer wrote:not a dumb question. but there are three good responses..theturkeyisfat wrote:this is probably a dumb question, but.. what's wrong with bidding on 5 markets (if you do have ties)?
#1) firms might ask you "so where are you bidding". you will sound foolish if you list 5 places; it seems like you have no idea what you want.
#2) you will likely not get a good spectrum of selectivity. if you bid only NYC, you can include some reaches, targets, and safeties. if you bid 5 markets you will have less leeway for any given market (like maybe only safeties in LA, but reaches in NY which is just weird).
#3) callback scheduling. this is a big factor. if you are bidding on Market X, there is an expectation that you will be interviewing on plenty of firms there to schedule callbacks simultaneously. for example, you might go to school in NYC but bid on LA and schedule an LA "callback trip" where you do 4-5 callbacks in LA during the same week. if you are bidding on 5 different markets your callbacks will be spread out and it will be tough to do something like that. firms may also be irritated/not take you seriously if they fly you cross country and they are the only firm calling you back so its an expensive 1-2 day trip. i've even had a recruiter say "you should schedule a few extra days for callbacks, as i'm sure you will have some if you are taking a move to the area seriously" something like that.
englawyer wrote:
theturkeyisfat wrote:
this is probably a dumb question, but.. what's wrong with bidding on 5 markets (if you do have ties)?
not a dumb question. but there are three good responses..
#1) firms might ask you "so where are you bidding". you will sound foolish if you list 5 places; it seems like you have no idea what you want.
#2) you will likely not get a good spectrum of selectivity. if you bid only NYC, you can include some reaches, targets, and safeties. if you bid 5 markets you will have less leeway for any given market (like maybe only safeties in LA, but reaches in NY which is just weird).
#3) callback scheduling. this is a big factor. if you are bidding on Market X, there is an expectation that you will be interviewing on plenty of firms there to schedule callbacks simultaneously. for example, you might go to school in NYC but bid on LA and schedule an LA "callback trip" where you do 4-5 callbacks in LA during the same week. if you are bidding on 5 different markets your callbacks will be spread out and it will be tough to do something like that. firms may also be irritated/not take you seriously if they fly you cross country and they are the only firm calling you back so its an expensive 1-2 day trip. i've even had a recruiter say "you should schedule a few extra days for callbacks, as i'm sure you will have some if you are taking a move to the area seriously" something like that.
I dunno... After 3 days of OCI I had CB's scheduled in 4 different markets (SF, DC, NY, and LA). I think it really depends how you sell it.i think i could work around the first two points, but the third one is huge.. interesting.
When it's a school like NU which is based on lottery alone and no preselect, you have zero guarantee about an offer out of OCI. I hustled like a motherfucker before OCI even began. I'd be nuts not to with as much debt as I'm looking at.Anonymous User wrote:T14 kids mass mail? I thought that was only for people who don't have a good OCI at their schools. What is the point for someone who is going to get like 20 interviews with big firms on campus?
Has it been a hassle to schedule those? How are you going to find time for the 12-hour round-trip flights between coasts?Shaggier1 wrote:
I dunno... After 3 days of OCI I had CB's scheduled in 4 different markets (SF, DC, NY, and LA). I think it really depends how you sell it.
Then again, I am genuinely interested in each market, so maybe I did not have to do all that much "selling."
Non-factor, unless the interview comes with a polygraph.englawyer wrote:not a dumb question. but there are three good responses..theturkeyisfat wrote:this is probably a dumb question, but.. what's wrong with bidding on 5 markets (if you do have ties)?
#1) firms might ask you "so where are you bidding". you will sound foolish if you list 5 places; it seems like you have no idea what you want.
Not really - I am just being strategic. I fit as many CB's into one trip as I can.Has it been a hassle to schedule those? How are you going to find time for the 12-hour round-trip flights between coasts?
I feel like open signup can be a bit of a trap, however, if you just sign up for any firm that you see on the list without any real ties to the regions. I probably could have bumped my interview total from 16 to 22 or so had I of grabbed every single open signup, but I feel like it is just a waste of time (not necessarily just the 20 minute interview, but the preparation as well).Anonymous User wrote:Some others I talked to were lackadaisical about open sign ups. I've been working that angle hard. After getting 14 in the lottery, I pushed my total interviews to 26 through open sign ups and hustling.
I have definitely used a generic answer for this one more than once.Cupidity wrote:Most of my friends haven't done any interview prep, and won't be prepared for the "why are you interested in our firm" question.