Bickel&Brewer NY Forum

[Anonymous User]

Screener with them this week. I know the firm is a powerhouse litigation firm. Since they arent any NALP does anyone know any more info on them? # of summers hired in NY, # of offers made, that kind of stuff. thanks!

[xyzbca]

Screener with them this week. I know the firm is a powerhouse litigation firm. Since they arent any NALP does anyone know any more info on them? # of summers hired in NY, # of offers made, that kind of stuff. thanks!

Hopefully you've already seen this and know what kind of image you are wanting to project at your interview.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123380523253950975.html

At law firm Bickel & Brewer, even the mailroom clerks wear suits and ties. Until recently, that might have been considered extreme. But now, power dressing is coming back in style, and the old-school law firm has a new relevance.

As law-firm layoffs mount, fear of unemployment appears to be speeding up the resurgence of power clothes, even among the youngest recruits. Legal interns have begun flouting business-casual dress codes and wearing suits instead, says Gretchen Neels, a Boston communications consultant who works with law firms and graduate schools. "In our economic times, you really want to have your game on. You can't be too formal," she says.

Power clothes are selling well at menswear retailer Paul Fredrick. Those white-collared, colored dress shirts that Gordon Gekko favored in the 1987 movie "Wall Street" have been big sellers in recent months, says Dean White, executive vice president of merchandise. So are yellow power ties, another 1980s dress-for-success accessory.

The return of old-school power dressing is something of a "duh" moment for Bill Brewer, co-founder and managing partner of the law firm, which has offices in Dallas and New York City. He never really got the appeal of khakis and rubber-soled Gucci loafers at the office. He prides himself on custom three-button suits with a center vent and shirts from Bruce Clark in New York. His voice tightens with disdain when he describes "those square-toed club shoes" that some young recruits wear to the office.

"I think people expect high-powered lawyers to look like high-powered lawyers," Mr. Brewer says. "Anything else is sending the wrong signal."

Even six months ago, that kind of talk might have sounded as outmoded as John Molloy, who penned "Dress For Success," the 1980s bible of corporate style. Casual clothing has long been seen as a sign of a modern attitude and has become an important job perk. In a 2007 column I wrote, a number of young lawyers defended working in Ugg boots, jeans and clingy T-shirts, arguing that they needed to be comfortable at work. They felt entitled.

But people's sense of job entitlement has evaporated as unemployment figures rise. Ms. Neels suggests that any law graduate with a job should prepare to invest in whatever the firm asks. "If they want you to dress up like Big Bird every day, for $160,000 a year, just do it!" she says, citing the going starting salary for law associates this year.

Alicia Russell, an executive recruiter for legal jobs with Boyden Global Executive Search, says Bickel & Brewer's all-inclusive power-dress code is unusual. "I can't say that I've ever been in a law firm where every single person is in formal business attire," she says. But she isn't opposed to the concept. In fact, she recommends that lawyers stick with dark, conservative suits. Men should wear ties and women should add an accessory that has "panache" -- such as a piece of jewelry or a sharp-looking purse or briefcase.

At Bickel & Brewer, the power code is made clear when recruits are invited to "Call-Back Weekend" in Dallas, which takes place each fall. "When I greet them at 9 a.m. that Saturday, I'm in a suit and tie -- and so are they," says Michael Gardner, the firm's hiring partner.

In conversation, Mr. Brewer, 57, and Mr. Gardner, 39, manage to sound like the calendar says it's 1985. As they describe the corporate-litigation firm, which employs more than 40 lawyers, they evoke a work-hard-play-hard ethos, tossing around hard-driving football analogies to convey that work comes first. And second. "This is a star system," says Mr. Brewer.

Mr. Gardner sounds as though he'd like to hold his nose when he discusses business casual. "It's actually a little offensive to my sense of style," he says. Without a suit, he says, "I would feel like a football player who ran out on the field without his shoulder pads."

Young lawyers who arrive ignorant of the power-suit ensemble get a little tutoring from Mr. Gardner "in a mentoring way," he says. Let's just say that if Mr. Gardner invites you for a quick cup of joe at Starbucks, you might want to reconsider your footwear. Next door to the Starbucks in the lobby is a shoeshine shop. "You know," he tells those with scuffed shoes, "I'm going to get my shoes shined. Why don't you join me?"

Adam Sanderson, an associate of the "millennial" generation born after 1981, accompanied Mr. Gardner to the shoeshine shop after joining the firm in 2006. Mr. Gardner says Mr. Sanderson's shoes were too trendy. "I was thinking the next best thing would be to get his shoes shined," Mr. Gardner recalls. But he didn't stop there. "I just told him, 'We gotta get rid of those shoes.' "

Mr. Sanderson says he had been planning to get new shoes anyway -- and he bought the cap-toed Ferragamos that Mr. Gardner suggested. "Shined shoes are a point of pride here," he adds.

There was a time that even Mr. Brewer's confidence in power attire wavered. In the late 1990s, says Mr. Brewer, "we were doing work for people who were very high-profile in the new space -- high tech. Many of them were business casual, or less than casual." Mr. Brewer asked during a corporate retreat whether the firm should test business-casual for the summer.

"That's ridiculous," he says his partners countered. "That's not Bickel & Brewer."

[Grizz]

Those pinstripes are so damn loud.

[Anonymous User]

Those pinstripes are so damn loud.

That's what people expect power lawyers to look like!

Didn't mean for anon.

~xyzbca

[Anonymous User]

they only have 40 attorneys in all offices?

[Anonymous User]

I'm familiar enough with the firm, my family is acquaintances with some of the people at it.

1) Absolutely brutal hours. The founding partners are workaholics and expect the same.

2) Known for a very nasty, hardcore litigation style. It's typically all-or-nothing, scorched-earth with them.

3) Extremely selective. They are small, and plan on keeping it that way.

4) You'll learn a lot, but they are a bunch of assholes.