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What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:52 pm
by thesealocust
Introduction

I present to you: Summer Associate positions available at Vault 100 law firms in three major markets.

I am briefly out of retirement because I am in love with numbers and at war with everyone bitching about NYC.

I counted NYC and DC, Chicago was counted in this thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=161763

Data

Location: Approx # of summers (2011)
Chicago: 330 (approx)
Washington, D.C.: 658
New York: 1,758

Conclusion

Y'all do whatever y'all want to do, but now you can do it with sweet, sweet data.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:56 pm
by Sentry
This is like when Superman left Kansas in Kingdom Come!

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:01 am
by ndirish2010
<3 numbers.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:11 am
by Aston2412

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:37 am
by baboon309
thesealocust wrote:Introduction

I present to you: Summer Associate positions available at Vault 100 law firms in three major markets.

I am briefly out of retirement because I am in love with numbers and at war with everyone bitching about NYC.

I counted NYC and DC, Chicago was counted in this thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=161763

Data

Location: Approx # of summers (2011)
Chicago: 330 (approx)
Washington, D.C.: 658
New York: 1,758

Conclusion

Y'all do whatever y'all want to do, but now you can do it with sweet, sweet data.
Are those numbers represent the SAs working at big law firm this summer?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:35 am
by ndirish2010
Kirkland was double counted in there. Subtract 68 from the 2010 numbers and 130 from the 2011 numbers and you have reality (they added in the collective form for K&E for some reason). 330.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:08 pm
by Eco
So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:16 pm
by Trequartista
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
How much did New York and D.C hire in 2007?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:32 pm
by ndirish2010
Trequartista wrote:
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
How much did New York and D.C hire in 2007?
Everyone knows it is worse than 2007. The relevant comparisons should be that it is better than 2010.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:40 pm
by Trequartista
ndirish2010 wrote:
Trequartista wrote:
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
How much did New York and D.C hire in 2007?
Everyone knows it is worse than 2007. The relevant comparisons should be that it is better than 2010.
By a significant amount?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:22 am
by Trequartista
Why is no one interested in this thread?

Bump.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:52 am
by Anonymous User
Trequartista wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Trequartista wrote:
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
How much did New York and D.C hire in 2007?
Everyone knows it is worse than 2007. The relevant comparisons should be that it is better than 2010.
By a significant amount?
My DC firm is almost double last year's class. Know of one or two of the bigger firms that also had 50-100% growth. (But one other firm I interviewed with last year grew by single digits in terms of spots not %)

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:45 pm
by rayiner
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
There are 4,500 students in the T14...

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:14 pm
by BarbellDreams
rayiner wrote:
Eco wrote:So NY big law is hiring almost 1,800 2Ls this year and D.C. is hiring 600? That sounds like good news?
There are 4,500 students in the T14...
This has to be the response of the year so far.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:59 pm
by Eco
With the way everyone is talking about how we're all fucked, a combined 2,500 associate positions in d.c. and ny isn't as bad as I thought. I literally had this vision of only like 30 students per school in the top 20 getting any job lol.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:02 pm
by ihhwap1
Tag :D Good thread

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:05 pm
by ndirish2010
Eco wrote:With the way everyone is talking about how we're all fucked, a combined 2,500 associate positions in d.c. and ny isn't as bad as I thought. I literally had this vision of only like 30 students per school in the top 20 getting any job lol.
What?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:09 pm
by Aston2412
ndirish2010 wrote:
Eco wrote:With the way everyone is talking about how we're all fucked, a combined 2,500 associate positions in d.c. and ny isn't as bad as I thought. I literally had this vision of only like 30 students per school in the top 20 getting any job lol.
What?
He's saying it's apparently not as bad as everyone thought it was.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:11 pm
by booboo
Rayiner has TCR.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:11 pm
by ndirish2010
Aston2412 wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Eco wrote:With the way everyone is talking about how we're all fucked, a combined 2,500 associate positions in d.c. and ny isn't as bad as I thought. I literally had this vision of only like 30 students per school in the top 20 getting any job lol.
What?
He's saying it's apparently not as bad as everyone thought it was.
His post makes zero sense. Yep, 30 HLS students are getting ANY job. Did anyone think that?

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:18 pm
by Eco
I was generalizing, calm down lol.

Re: What market should you apply to? (Market sizes ITT)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:20 pm
by glitter178
ndirish2010 wrote:
Aston2412 wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Eco wrote:With the way everyone is talking about how we're all fucked, a combined 2,500 associate positions in d.c. and ny isn't as bad as I thought. I literally had this vision of only like 30 students per school in the top 20 getting any job lol.
What?
He's saying it's apparently not as bad as everyone thought it was.
His post makes zero sense. Yep, 30 HLS students are getting ANY job. Did anyone think that?
While it's certainly not written eloquently, the post makes sense to me...