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This thread is relevant to my interests.
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VW locked it again.
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Thanks for bringing that to my attention.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL areyouinsane is about to get another ban, check out the R-N Class of 2014 thread...
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vanwinkle wrote:Thanks for bringing that to my attention.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL areyouinsane is about to get another ban, check out the R-N Class of 2014 thread...
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Lol, he had to be a martyr. Oh well.Paraflam wrote:vanwinkle wrote:Thanks for bringing that to my attention.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL areyouinsane is about to get another ban, check out the R-N Class of 2014 thread...
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Oh my. I go to work, come home, and the contract/temp thread is closed.
I'm staying home tomorrow.
I'm staying home tomorrow.
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deserved, IMOndirish2010 wrote:LOL areyouinsane is about to get another ban, check out the R-N Class of 2014 thread...
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Probably very deserved indeed lol. The guy is entertaining as hell, but "headstrong" is a very mild way of describing his TLS tendencies.
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I guess the ban is deserved simply because only people who are going to attend the school are supposed to post there. But if people are asking how safe the area is, I guess only people who are going to attend are supposed to respond? This gets confusing - can current students post there? I think his last post was at least addressing a topic in that thread.
I hope his other thread he started about practicing torts/personal injury law is useful.
Relevant to this thread: what other kind of contract/temp attorneys are there except for doc review? I know that senior associates can become of counsel so they must have contracts with the firm that are different than just being an employee/associate. Maybe people who are working a special or reduced part-time schedule (which is about 40 hours) What else?
I hope his other thread he started about practicing torts/personal injury law is useful.
Relevant to this thread: what other kind of contract/temp attorneys are there except for doc review? I know that senior associates can become of counsel so they must have contracts with the firm that are different than just being an employee/associate. Maybe people who are working a special or reduced part-time schedule (which is about 40 hours) What else?
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I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
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LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
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Haha, I couldn't have asked you to set me up better, as I'm a rising 3L in the top 1/3 at CCN. I also don't have a job lined up for after graduation or a SA job that's likely to lead to one. Also, the person in charge of clerkships at my school told me that I have virtually no shot at landing a federal clerkship, and I doubt that my grades will cut it for a paying government job. There are no guarantees in life. Even people in the top 10% and on law review can get no offered (through no fault of their own) because a firm realizes that it can increase per partner profits by no offering a large part of their summer class. Areyouinsane presents a hilarious and in-depth look at the depressing world of temping in the legal industry. I just read the entire 21 page post and would classify it as quite possibly the single best thread I've read on an internet message board.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
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Where do you usually post, JDU?lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much.
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Why is it relevant for anyone at CCN? Areyouinsane’s harangue is pointed at Seton Hall, and the likes. $3K a week summer jobs (there are plenty of them) are not the material for gloom.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
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Any words of advice for rising 2ls? What happened with your job search?lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:Haha, I couldn't have asked you to set me up better, as I'm a rising 3L in the top 1/3 at CCN. I also don't have a job lined up for after graduation or a SA job that's likely to lead to one. Also, the person in charge of clerkships at my school told me that I have virtually no shot at landing a federal clerkship, and I doubt that my grades will cut it for a paying government job. There are no guarantees in life. Even people in the top 10% and on law review can get no offered (through no fault of their own) because a firm realizes that it can increase per partner profits by no offering a large part of their summer class. Areyouinsane presents a hilarious and in-depth look at the depressing world of temping in the legal industry. I just read the entire 21 page post and would classify it as quite possibly the single best thread I've read on an internet message board.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
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My post wasn't sarcastic at all...../sarcasm.Renne Walker wrote:Why is it relevant for anyone at CCN? Areyouinsane’s harangue is pointed at Seton Hall, and the likes.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
If you are in the top 1/3 at CCN and didn't get a job, I'm sorry, but vast majority of people in your situation do get jobs.
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Yeah, most people in the top 1/3 at CCN do get jobs. To be completely fair, I should probably throw it out there that I didn't bid on New York. I focused on one of the five other largest legal markets (the one that I was from) and got a few callbacks, but the firms that I had callbacks with only hired a few SAs. Also, some people just slip through the cracks. There isn't always a rhyme or a reason for everything. Areyouinsane was in the top quarter of his class at a T50 school. Someone in that position should be able to do well in law. However, he had to do several years hard time in shit law and doc review, and after watching a bunch of my friends from college get shut out of the legal profession with basically the same credentials, I have no reason to doubt him.ndirish2010 wrote:My post wasn't sarcastic at all...../sarcasm.Renne Walker wrote:Why is it relevant for anyone at CCN? Areyouinsane’s harangue is pointed at Seton Hall, and the likes.ndirish2010 wrote:LOL yep, I'm sure it's HIGHLY RELEVANT for top 1/3 people at CCN.lawschoolROCKS22 wrote:I don't post on this site much. I used it sometimes while applying to law school, used it sometimes during 1L year to get advice on exams and stuff, and use it sometimes now when I'm looking for advice on legal employment. That said, I would like to nominate areyouinsane for best poster this site has ever had. His stories are hilarious and highly relevant for anyone not attending a HYS level law school.
If you are in the top 1/3 at CCN and didn't get a job, I'm sorry, but vast majority of people in your situation do get jobs.
To get back on track (since I kind of derailed the thread), I spent two years before law school working as a legal assistant for a major New York Law Firm. I don't personally have any hard feelings against the place, so I won't mention which one, though I will say that it was a "peer" of the firms that areyouinsane mentioned. His description of the doc review dungeons and treatment of temp attorneys pretty much matched what I saw. Even though the temp attorneys had JDs and passed the bar, they were still placed well below us in the firm hierarchy.
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Areyouinsane said that he graduated a NYC TT with a 3.1. That doesn't seem like it would place in the top quarter.
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Your delusion is cute. Search the forum for the bloodbath that was Chicago's 2010 OCI. In fact, I'll search for you because that's just the kinda guy I am.Renne Walker wrote: Why is it relevant for anyone at CCN? Areyouinsane’s harangue is pointed at Seton Hall, and the likes. $3K a week summer jobs (there are plenty of them) are not the material for gloom.
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There were also a number of CCN grads that were Lathamed. I am not sure what has happened to them. I know it was almost impossible for them to find any type of legal employment at the same level as they thought they had achieved. They were basically out of biglaw in NYC anyway.
I wonder where they are now? I know one guy gave up and went to write a legal blog.
I wonder where they are now? I know one guy gave up and went to write a legal blog.
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Oh yeah, right, this seems absolutely horrible. Sorry, I did not read all 23 pages, but after I saw this post I figured best to say, I rest my case.Blessedassurance wrote:Your delusion is cute. Search the forum for the bloodbath that was Chicago's 2010 OCI. In fact, I'll search for you because that's just the kinda guy I am.Renne Walker wrote: Why is it relevant for anyone at CCN? Areyouinsane’s harangue is pointed at Seton Hall, and the likes. $3K a week summer jobs (there are plenty of them) are not the material for gloom.
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There is no way you are real
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LOL. I am an OL. . . what I posted was from a Chicago student.Kilpatrick wrote:There is no way you are real
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Uh yeah I know. I'm talking about your shtick of believing that 3K/wk jobs are a dime a dozen and that a single person who did well at Chicago OCI means that people at CCN have nothing to worry about... it can't be real.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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