above-market compensation
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:21 pm
perfect grades at HYS, looking for above-market compensation (need to pay off those loans!) and a great litigation practice. location flexible. any thoughts?
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Boies or W&C if you're looking for really great litigation opportunitiesAnonymous User wrote:perfect grades at HYS, looking for above-market compensation (need to pay off those loans!) and a great litigation practice. location flexible. any thoughts?
This makes little to no sense for someone interested in litigation (like the OP). Besides, they've apparently stopped with theIrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Enjoy WLRK and that mammoth bonus, bro.
Let the dude get some offers first before you start trolling for your secondary markets, you dig?BruceWayne wrote:This makes little to no sense for someone interested in litigation (like the OP). Besides, they've apparently stopped with theIrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Enjoy WLRK and that mammoth bonus, bro.
routine bonuses equal to base salary. Not to mention the NYC COL and tax rate don't means it isn't the best way to pay off loans.
Susman Godfrey would make a lot of sense. They pay above market ($175,000 to first years), in a state with no income tax, and about as low a COL as it gets. You also get a 50,000 clerkship bonus on top of that 175K first year salary. So after the bonus and taxes that's a little over 150,000 take home. That's equal to 359,000 a year in NYC. The OP should go to Susman.
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That was random and incoherent. You do realize that you mentioned Susman in your post; are you high?seriouslyinformative wrote:Let the dude get some offers first before you start trolling for your secondary markets, you dig?BruceWayne wrote:This makes little to no sense for someone interested in litigation (like the OP). Besides, they've apparently stopped with theIrwinM.Fletcher wrote:Enjoy WLRK and that mammoth bonus, bro.
routine bonuses equal to base salary. Not to mention the NYC COL and tax rate don't means it isn't the best way to pay off loans.
Susman Godfrey would make a lot of sense. They pay above market ($175,000 to first years), in a state with no income tax, and about as low a COL as it gets. You also get a 50,000 clerkship bonus on top of that 175K first year salary. So after the bonus and taxes that's a little over 150,000 take home. That's equal to 359,000 a year in NYC. The OP should go to Susman.
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You were telling the guy to take Susman over Wachtell.That was random and incoherent. You do realize that you mentioned Susman in your post; are you high?
Kellogg HuberAnonymous User wrote:Let's add a twist: what if I want to be in NY or DC and I'd like to be at a firm that not only does good appellate work but also lets young associates contribute to it? For this purpose, maybe assume (though I know it's no given) that I'll clerk after law school. Thanks!!
Damn man everything I just said went over your head. "Trolling" "secondary market" WTF? Even using that phrase is a clear sign that you spend too much time on here (especially in response to a post from someone who said making a lot of money and paying off loans was their primary goal; if that's what you want NYC doesn't make sense if you have other options--which he will with "perfect" grades from HYS)--I'm embarassed that I even understood what you were saying.seriouslyinformative wrote:You were telling the guy to take Susman over Wachtell.That was random and incoherent. You do realize that you mentioned Susman in your post; are you high?
Sorry--to confirm, I'm hoping to do appellate work post-clerkship, if a clerkship even happens. For the summer, I'd just like to be somewhere where it is possible to eventually do interesting appellate work.seriouslyinformative wrote:Kellogg HuberAnonymous User wrote:Let's add a twist: what if I want to be in NY or DC and I'd like to be at a firm that not only does good appellate work but also lets young associates contribute to it? For this purpose, maybe assume (though I know it's no given) that I'll clerk after law school. Thanks!!
Zuckerman Spaeder
Kirkland
I think the first two pay above market, but I can't be sure. I don't know other firms with appellate practices that pay above-market. And I don't know any firm that let's associates touch appellate work pre-clerkship.
Does Zuckerman take summer associates?seriouslyinformative wrote:Kellogg HuberAnonymous User wrote:Let's add a twist: what if I want to be in NY or DC and I'd like to be at a firm that not only does good appellate work but also lets young associates contribute to it? For this purpose, maybe assume (though I know it's no given) that I'll clerk after law school. Thanks!!
Zuckerman Spaeder
Kirkland
I think the first two pay above market, but I can't be sure. I don't know other firms with appellate practices that pay above-market. And I don't know any firm that let's associates touch appellate work pre-clerkship.
Yeah, those are fine choices. There are better appellate firms in DC than Kirkland, but I don't think they pay above-market compensation.Anonymous User wrote:Sorry--to confirm, I'm hoping to do appellate work post-clerkship, if a clerkship even happens. For the summer, I'd just like to be somewhere where it is possible to eventually do interesting appellate work.seriouslyinformative wrote:Kellogg HuberAnonymous User wrote:Let's add a twist: what if I want to be in NY or DC and I'd like to be at a firm that not only does good appellate work but also lets young associates contribute to it? For this purpose, maybe assume (though I know it's no given) that I'll clerk after law school. Thanks!!
Zuckerman Spaeder
Kirkland
I think the first two pay above market, but I can't be sure. I don't know other firms with appellate practices that pay above-market. And I don't know any firm that let's associates touch appellate work pre-clerkship.
Extremely intense workaholics and long hours. That's what you'll find at all of the above-market lit firms.Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any opinions on the culture at Boies, Susman, and Quinn? WLRK definitely isn't for me.
Even a SCOTUS clerkship is going to cost you money in the short term. You forgo 160k+bonus for two years--plus your second year you'd probably get a raise--which is more than 250k+two years of a clerk's salary. At best you'd break even or do slightly better.luthersloan wrote:Or you could always feeder clerk, SCOTUS clerk and collect that 250K starting bonus from any of those firms.
Actually no. Once you factor in taxes and such, most people make money or break even if they make SCOTUS; plus, it makes you more competitive for the Susmans/BBs of the world.quakeroats wrote:Even a SCOTUS clerkship is going to cost you money in the short term. You forgo 160k+bonus for two years--plus your second year you'd probably get a raise--which is more than 250k+two years of a clerks salary.luthersloan wrote:Or you could always feeder clerk, SCOTUS clerk and collect that 250K starting bonus from any of those firms.