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Youppi315 wrote:Not that I will base my decision on this, at all, but I'm just curious what it takes to get DLA Piper, Weil, Jones Day, Fish, Vinson, etc. out of this regional school. I stress regional because, well, if it can't place into these big firms in Dallas at all (or it's nearly impossible) then...what's the point? (Excuse my exaggeration.)

If you could provide a break down of where grads/2Ls find employment, too, that would be very cool (e.g., top 10% get [x], between that and top 20% get [y] etc.).

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Youppi315 wrote:Not that I will base my decision on this, at all, but I'm just curious what it takes to get DLA Piper, Weil, Jones Day, Fish, Vinson, etc. out of this regional school. I stress regional because, well, if it can't place into these big firms in Dallas at all (or it's nearly impossible) then...what's the point? (Excuse my exaggeration.)

If you could provide a break down of where grads/2Ls find employment, too, that would be very cool (e.g., top 10% get [x], between that and top 20% get [y] etc.).

Top 10% and LR. Most big firms list top 10 to 15 (a few even 5) for SMU OCI. I'm a rising 2L top ~5%. I can PM u if u want and I can give you more info/advice.

Anonymous User wrote: Most big firms list top 10 to 15 (a few even 5) for SMU OCI.

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thesealocust wrote:A wise and insightful person once wrote:

PSA - when a firm lists its GPA preference and requirements, you should do the following: Ignore them entirely and mother fucking ask career services.

Firms lie through their god damned teeth on those things, and I want to keep harping on it, because it is VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR CAREER PROSPECTS. The firms are lying or naive or outsourcing their symplicity profiles to India or who knows what, but if you ask a 3 year old with a box of crayons to draw you the cut off for a firm you'll get a better answer than the firm's published cutoff on your OCI software.

Firms aren't consistently high, or consistently low - they're just consistently full of shit. A firm that says "top third required" might hire to median, it might hire from the top 3% without exception, and there's even a remote chance it will hire from the top third. But those pieces of data simply cannot be relied upon at all. Not even in a cursory way. Not for comparison's sake, not when nothing else will do. You need to completely disregard them, and beg/borrow/steal data from career services. Your (and that's the royal 'your' for everyone out there reading in paranoid law student land) career depends on it.

Youppi315 wrote:Not that I will base my decision on this, at all, but I'm just curious what it takes to get DLA Piper, Weil, Jones Day, Fish, Vinson, etc. out of this regional school. I stress regional because, well, if it can't place into these big firms in Dallas at all (or it's nearly impossible) then...what's the point? (Excuse my exaggeration.)

If you could provide a break down of where grads/2Ls find employment, too, that would be very cool (e.g., top 10% get [x], between that and top 20% get [y] etc.).

kalvano wrote:

Youppi315 wrote:Not that I will base my decision on this, at all, but I'm just curious what it takes to get DLA Piper, Weil, Jones Day, Fish, Vinson, etc. out of this regional school. I stress regional because, well, if it can't place into these big firms in Dallas at all (or it's nearly impossible) then...what's the point? (Excuse my exaggeration.)

If you could provide a break down of where grads/2Ls find employment, too, that would be very cool (e.g., top 10% get [x], between that and top 20% get [y] etc.).

SMU career services doesn't break stuff down by grades because they suck.

However, so far, Jones Day, Fish, Weil, and several others are coming to OCI. You'll need, as the previous poster said, top 10% and LR. Top 10% at SMU this year is a 3.612.

thesealocust wrote:I realize I sound like a broken record, and if your career services office has no data then obviously you can't get blood from a stone. Still, absolutely ignoring the requirements the firms post on Symplicity (or whatever) entirely. Do your best to figure out selectivity by asking around, getting data from other schools, etc. But seriously, don't even use what firms post on symplicity as a ballpark. Recipe for disaster.