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No ties to any markets?
Right now I'm trying to write my cover letters and I'm struggling to address my lack of ties to markets. I've been on TLS for a while and I've heard the emphasis on prioritizing markets where you have ties and trying to bring those out. My problem is that I have no appreciable ties to any markets - I grew up 5 hours away from the closest "big" market (Atlanta) and I did not attend LS or UG within 2 hours of any other market.
So how should I deal with this issue? Should I be upfront in letters and interviews and at least reassure firms that there's no threat that I'll suddenly depart for home? Should I stretch to the absolute limit to find any connection to the market, no matter how tenuous? Or can I simply rely on good solid research about the firm and city to demonstrate my interest or knowledge? I believe I can coherently and intelligently explain my preference for certain markets, but given all the conversations I've read here I'm not sure that'll be enough. FTR, I am top 3-4% at a T14, so I'm more concerned about getting offers than getting initial interviews.
So how should I deal with this issue? Should I be upfront in letters and interviews and at least reassure firms that there's no threat that I'll suddenly depart for home? Should I stretch to the absolute limit to find any connection to the market, no matter how tenuous? Or can I simply rely on good solid research about the firm and city to demonstrate my interest or knowledge? I believe I can coherently and intelligently explain my preference for certain markets, but given all the conversations I've read here I'm not sure that'll be enough. FTR, I am top 3-4% at a T14, so I'm more concerned about getting offers than getting initial interviews.
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Re: No ties to any markets?
If it's NYC or DC, they won't care. And frankly, with your grades, most markets won't care.
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Re: No ties to any markets?
2 important facts I failed to initially include (with apologies):
1) I am looking beyond DC/NY (although I will bid on some of those firms)
2) I am looking at a number of mid-sized firms with small summer classes and a reputation for exclusivity
Hopefully that makes my questions seem more relevant (if I was straight NYC BigLaw this thread would be a little bit dumb)
1) I am looking beyond DC/NY (although I will bid on some of those firms)
2) I am looking at a number of mid-sized firms with small summer classes and a reputation for exclusivity
Hopefully that makes my questions seem more relevant (if I was straight NYC BigLaw this thread would be a little bit dumb)
- billbrasky
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Re: No ties to any markets?
I'd keep it short and sweet in a cover letter (e.g., I plan to practice in xyz, usa, and want to work at your firm). Again, the places that don't give a rat's ass about ties are DC and NY, so definitely target those places (DC is a lot tougher to break into than NY, tho).
edit--i'm sure you'll land something good, but in the event that you are targeting some really obscure market and strike out, one good way to get a tie is to do a clerkship with a judge (that's actually probably the best tie you can have).
edit--i'm sure you'll land something good, but in the event that you are targeting some really obscure market and strike out, one good way to get a tie is to do a clerkship with a judge (that's actually probably the best tie you can have).
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Re: No ties to any markets?
There is a place for people like you, and that place is NYC, where you will soon be making $160,000. Enjoy.
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- joeshmo39
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Re: No ties to any markets?
Nashville? Hm?
If you want a small market all you can really do is write it honestly in the cover letter and then try to convey it honestly in an interview. If you're really opposed to NYC this is your best bet. I will say, as someone not hugely into NYC: aside from the noise, congestion, high cost of living and reported smell you only get one shot to be young and live in Manhattan.
If you want a small market all you can really do is write it honestly in the cover letter and then try to convey it honestly in an interview. If you're really opposed to NYC this is your best bet. I will say, as someone not hugely into NYC: aside from the noise, congestion, high cost of living and reported smell you only get one shot to be young and live in Manhattan.
- kurla88
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Re: No ties to any markets?
Not gonna lie, it is HARD to break into secondary markets without connections. But do not mention v tenuous connections. If the bolded is true, I'd say that's your best bet. Try not to target too many different places, because they will ask where else you're applying. And definitely apply to NYC even if that's not your top choice.Anonymous User wrote:Should I be upfront in letters and interviews and at least reassure firms that there's no threat that I'll suddenly depart for home? Should I stretch to the absolute limit to find any connection to the market, no matter how tenuous? Or can I simply rely on good solid research about the firm and city to demonstrate my interest or knowledge? I believe I can coherently and intelligently explain my preference for certain markets, but given all the conversations I've read here I'm not sure that'll be enough. FTR, I am top 3-4% at a T14, so I'm more concerned about getting offers than getting initial interviews.