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thickfreakness wrote:You're not getting to Cravath from Indiana, hth.

RevolverX wrote:http://www.cravath.com/interviewschedule/

1) Howard is not ranked; do they only do OCI there because of AA?

2) The lowest ranked school on the list is probably Fordham, which is considerably lower than say Indiana University or U Illinois (on a national level); however, do Fordham students have the advantage of gaining a position because of proximity in NY, whereas Indiana folks are at the disadvantage?

That is all.

Capitalist wrote:0L dumb question: it says they have "X school job fairs". What's the difference between their fairs and visits to other campuses?

Anonymous User wrote:That said, I still think going to Cravath is one of the dumber moves you can make as a 2L.

Capitalist wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:That said, I still think going to Cravath is one of the dumber moves you can make as a 2L.

Care to elaborate?

Entry to the firm is highly selective, generally open to only the most academically successful students from the most elite law schools in the United States and Canada. As with many top law firms, employee turnover is exceedingly high, with many attorneys departing the firm following a relatively brief tenure. As a rule of thumb, a third of an entering class departs by the end of their third year, and another third of those remaining depart by the end of their fifth year.[8]

Anonymous User wrote:

Capitalist wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:That said, I still think going to Cravath is one of the dumber moves you can make as a 2L.

Care to elaborate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cravath,_S ... ore#Hiring

Entry to the firm is highly selective, generally open to only the most academically successful students from the most elite law schools in the United States and Canada. As with many top law firms, employee turnover is exceedingly high, with many attorneys departing the firm following a relatively brief tenure. As a rule of thumb, a third of an entering class departs by the end of their third year, and another third of those remaining depart by the end of their fifth year.[8]

Renzo wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Capitalist wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:That said, I still think going to Cravath is one of the dumber moves you can make as a 2L.

Care to elaborate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cravath,_S ... ore#Hiring

Entry to the firm is highly selective, generally open to only the most academically successful students from the most elite law schools in the United States and Canada. As with many top law firms, employee turnover is exceedingly high, with many attorneys departing the firm following a relatively brief tenure. As a rule of thumb, a third of an entering class departs by the end of their third year, and another third of those remaining depart by the end of their fifth year.[8]

So, you think all of biglaw is a bad idea, then?

RevolverX wrote:
Indeed. To wit:

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"Seriously, law students don't realize how much BIGLAW sucks. You can do it for a few years (I have) but after a while you realize that if you do this for life you will go fucking crazy and miss out on so much shit. I don't admit anyone who's a partner at work- I feel sorry for them. Because 99% of them are tools who just work all the time. They never have time to enjoy their money and they have no hobbies outside work. They are just fucking tools working for corporate America, and their entire life is defined by maximizing their billable hours."

Anonymous User wrote:

Entry to the firm is highly selective, generally open to only the most academically successful students from the most elite law schools in the United States and Canada. As with many top law firms, employee turnover is exceedingly high, with many attorneys departing the firm following a relatively brief tenure. As a rule of thumb, a third of an entering class departs by the end of their third year, and another third of those remaining depart by the end of their fifth year.[8]

Rock Chalk wrote:

RevolverX wrote:do Fordham students have the advantage of gaining a position because of proximity in NY, whereas Indiana folks are at the disadvantage?

Yes. It's a good school, it's conveniently close, and multiple Cravath partners are Fordham grads. Why wouldn't they go?

PKSebben wrote:Top dudes at Fordham

kings84_wr wrote:FWIW I think there was maybe one student at IU that got NYC Big law (Excluding transfers) much less Cravath

RevolverX wrote:

kings84_wr wrote:FWIW I think there was maybe one student at IU that got NYC Big law (Excluding transfers) much less Cravath

I guess then that national rankings are sometimes irrelevant and immaterial, particularly with regard to Cravath hiring methods. According to TLS rankings, Fordham is ranked #30, whereas Indy is #23: http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html

Like the earlier poster said, there are more Fordham grads than Penn grads in the firm, looks like "regional" schools sometimes have more influence than national ones, and I find that intriguing.

Aberzombie1892 wrote:I didn't look at the Cravath lawyer profiles, but I've noticed that most NLJ250 firms hire staff attorneys from Howard - not associates. Sure, occasionally one gets hired as an associate, but those are few and far inbetween.

All of the recruiting at Howard is a smokescreen meant to confuse the uninformed.

Renzo wrote:

RevolverX wrote:
Indeed. To wit:

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"Seriously, law students don't realize how much BIGLAW sucks. You can do it for a few years (I have) but after a while you realize that if you do this for life you will go fucking crazy and miss out on so much shit. I don't admit anyone who's a partner at work- I feel sorry for them. Because 99% of them are tools who just work all the time. They never have time to enjoy their money and they have no hobbies outside work. They are just fucking tools working for corporate America, and their entire life is defined by maximizing their billable hours."

I like to work, and I don't have any hobbies.

PKSebben wrote:
Fordham is a NYC biglaw institution. Top dudes at Fordham still get jerbs at the white shoes - WLRK.