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Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:27 pm
by mjitbswyd
I am not a US citizen, so maybe it's something cultural I dont understand, but why do most people favor NYC biglaw over other firms in lower-cost cities that also pay 160k?
thanks!
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:46 pm
by 2LLLL
(1) NYC is where the action is
(2) NYC is where the jobs are
(3) Other cities don't pay $160k (well other cities do, but they aren't much lower CoL than NYC)
Really, (2) is the main reason- NYC firms have the biggest summer classes, require no ties, and have the highest offer rates
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:57 pm
by sanetruth
I feel like this is an LSAT question...
The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.
The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:00 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
2LLLL wrote:(1) NYC is where the action is
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:02 pm
by mblueyahoo!
new york city has jobs. other cities don't or are harder to get without ties/being awesome.
/thread
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:04 pm
by vanwinkle
2LLLL wrote:(1) NYC is where the action is
(2) NYC is where the jobs are
(3) Other cities don't pay $160k (well other cities do, but they aren't much lower CoL than NYC)
Really, (2) is the main reason- NYC firms have the biggest summer classes, require no ties, and have the highest offer rates
Agreed. NYC hires more total than any other market, and they're far less picky about whether you have existing geographic ties. In all, it's easier to get a high-pay, high-profile job there than anywhere else.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:48 pm
by Renzo
vanwinkle wrote:2LLLL wrote:(1) NYC is where the action is
(2) NYC is where the jobs are
(3) Other cities don't pay $160k (well other cities do, but they aren't much lower CoL than NYC)
Really, (2) is the main reason- NYC firms have the biggest summer classes, require no ties, and have the highest offer rates
Agreed. NYC hires more total than any other market, and they're far less picky about whether you have existing geographic ties. In all, it's easier to get a high-pay, high-profile job there than anywhere else.
(2) is big, but (1) shouldn't be underestimated either. One of my good friends has really, really good grades, and is from LA, and went to school in DC. He got offers all three places and took NYC because, he says, "you can always take the New York show on the road, but you can't really come here from someplace else."
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:49 pm
by PKSebben
vanwinkle wrote:2LLLL wrote:(1) NYC is where the action is
(2) NYC is where the jobs are
(3) Other cities don't pay $160k (well other cities do, but they aren't much lower CoL than NYC)
Really, (2) is the main reason- NYC firms have the biggest summer classes, require no ties, and have the highest offer rates
Agreed. NYC hires more total than any other market, and they're far less picky about whether you have existing geographic ties. In all, it's easier to get a high-pay, high-profile job there than anywhere else.
Absolutely. I should just lock this thread.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:49 pm
by mths
Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:50 pm
by PKSebben
mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:53 pm
by mths
PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.
it's just SO GOOD isn't it?
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:54 pm
by 2LLLL
I was an NYC hater until I tried my hand at DC BigLaw during 2010 OCI.... Never have I been through a more humbling experience....
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:56 pm
by PKSebben
2LLLL wrote:I was an NYC hater until I tried my hand at DC BigLaw during 2010 OCI.... Never have I been through a more humbling experience....
I got crushed at DC biglaw in OCI. I feel like I could have been born inside the lincoln memorial and I wouldn't have enough "ties." Also they said I was a stupid, ugly, asshole. Is that common at callbacks?
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:57 pm
by mths
PKSebben wrote:2LLLL wrote:I was an NYC hater until I tried my hand at DC BigLaw during 2010 OCI.... Never have I been through a more humbling experience....
I got crushed at DC biglaw in OCI. I feel like I could have been born inside the lincoln memorial and I wouldn't have enough "ties." Also they said I was a stupid, ugly, asshole. Is that common at callbacks?
they're nice, huh?
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:57 pm
by Renzo
PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.
Psssh. People hardly ever piss in the streets.
Now, the subways stairs, that's a different matter...
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:57 pm
by PKSebben
mths wrote:PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.
it's just SO GOOD isn't it?
food makes up for it. I also like crazies. so, there's that.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:58 pm
by 2LLLL
Renzo wrote:vanwinkle wrote:2LLLL wrote:(1) NYC is where the action is
(2) NYC is where the jobs are
(3) Other cities don't pay $160k (well other cities do, but they aren't much lower CoL than NYC)
Really, (2) is the main reason- NYC firms have the biggest summer classes, require no ties, and have the highest offer rates
Agreed. NYC hires more total than any other market, and they're far less picky about whether you have existing geographic ties. In all, it's easier to get a high-pay, high-profile job there than anywhere else.
(2) is big, but (1) shouldn't be underestimated either. One of my good friends has really, really good grades, and is from LA, and went to school in DC. He got offers all three places and took NYC because, he says, "you can always take the New York show on the road, but you can't really come here from someplace else."
Yeah, I feel like if you're into corporate/transactional practice (which I'm not so feel free to correct me) it's almost NYC or bust to get real work...
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:58 pm
by mths
PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:Every time I go to NYC I fall in love all over again.
got a thing for people pissing on the streets, rats, shitty weather, ugly people, and trash smell, huh? Me too.
it's just SO GOOD isn't it?
food makes up for it. I also like crazies. so, there's that.
I like all of it. Literally every little bit.
But yes, the food is amazing and there are regular crazies every few blocks so that keeps things fresh.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:02 am
by PKSebben
mths wrote:
But yes, the food is amazing and there are regular crazies every few blocks so that keeps things fresh.
I can't take the tourists and working in midtown and the rent. rent is just absurd.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:05 am
by Renzo
PKSebben wrote:mths wrote:
But yes, the food is amazing and there are regular crazies every few blocks so that keeps things fresh.
I can't take the tourists and working in midtown and the rent. rent is just absurd.
You gotta come out to Brooklyn. The rent's still absurd, but you can have a little yard.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:07 am
by jdhopeful14
I feel like this is an LSAT question...
The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.
The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.
Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market
because people favor it.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:08 am
by BeenDidThat
jdhopeful14 wrote:I feel like this is an LSAT question...
The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.
The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.
Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market
because people favor it.
I really hope this is a joke and my sarcasm meter isn't working tonight.
Recent grad desires --> job creation? Yeah fucking right.
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:10 am
by kublaikahn
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Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:26 am
by holdencaulfield
mjitbswyd wrote:I am not a US citizen, so maybe it's something cultural I dont understand, but why do most people favor NYC biglaw over other firms in lower-cost cities that also pay 160k?
thanks!
McSorely's
Re: Why do people favor NYC firms?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:27 am
by jdhopeful14
jdhopeful14 wrote:
Quote:
I feel like this is an LSAT question...
The answer? They don't, it just seems like that because it is the largest market.
The amount of people that seem to 'favor' other markets over NYC is probably directly proportional to the size of those markets in comparison to NYC.
Uhhhhhhhh.....maybe it's the largest market because people favor it.
I really hope this is a joke and my sarcasm meter isn't working tonight.
Recent grad desires --> job creation? Yeah fucking right.
What does the fact that a market already exists have to do with "job creation"?
Stop equivocating as to the word "market".