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3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:58 pm
by Gatorade
any success stories out there? It can be expensive for an un-employed 3L. thanks for your inputs and please take it easy with the flaming.

Re: 3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:03 pm
by Julio_El_Chavo
tech background? school range/grades?

Re: 3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:38 pm
by Big Shrimpin
ITE, if you're a jobless 3L, you should go if you get at least one interview. I don't personally know of any success stories, but such stories shouldn't really matter. We all know that 3L hiring, at best, is anemic. TCR is to (1) polish the fck out of your resume/cover letter (e.g. write a specific cover letter for each firm bid), (2) REALLY get ready to interview, do tons of firm research/polish the fck out of your interviewing abilities, etc..., and (3) travel to CHI if you get at least one interview (and one could make the argument that the resume drops/hospitality suites would be worth the trip, depending upon how far away/cost factor).

Moreover, if you're a jobless 3L and you want a firm job, you should be getting ready to mount the mail-campaign of the century. Seriously, dood/anybody else, get ready to fire-off hundreds of resume/cover letter combos as soon as you're done exams (or maybe earlier, I don't have any personal experience with mass-mail, as I only did a small mail campaign last summer).

You never know. I was speaking with a partner at a midsized firm (100+ attorneys) from my hometown. We were discussing the economy, the hiring model, and ITE's "hiring hedging" (relative to the boomtimes, of course). He suggested that, due to how much his firm (which I'd guess is indicative of firms situated similarly to his) had cut back last year/this year and the recent increase in business, they would likely be in the 3L hiring market. Not like a few 3Ls, but one. Tops. Extrapolated across the board could represent a minor uptick in 3L hiring. To be sure, however, this is all conjecture based upon my conversation with some partner dood and could be completely untrue, or not. At the very least, it could serve as motivation to get that mail campaign done.

Re: 3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:34 pm
by Anonymous User
Big Shrimpin wrote:ITE, if you're a jobless 3L, you should go if you get at least one interview. I don't personally know of any success stories, but such stories shouldn't really matter. We all know that 3L hiring, at best, is anemic. TCR is to (1) polish the fck out of your resume/cover letter (e.g. write a specific cover letter for each firm bid), (2) REALLY get ready to interview, do tons of firm research/polish the fck out of your interviewing abilities, etc..., and (3) travel to CHI if you get at least one interview (and one could make the argument that the resume drops/hospitality suites would be worth the trip, depending upon how far away/cost factor).

Moreover, if you're a jobless 3L and you want a firm job, you should be getting ready to mount the mail-campaign of the century. Seriously, dood/anybody else, get ready to fire-off hundreds of resume/cover letter combos as soon as you're done exams (or maybe earlier, I don't have any personal experience with mass-mail, as I only did a small mail campaign last summer).

You never know. I was speaking with a partner at a midsized firm (100+ attorneys) from my hometown. We were discussing the economy, the hiring model, and ITE's "hiring hedging" (relative to the boomtimes, of course). He suggested that, due to how much his firm (which I'd guess is indicative of firms situated similarly to his) had cut back last year/this year and the recent increase in business, they would likely be in the 3L hiring market. Not like a few 3Ls, but one. Tops. Extrapolated across the board could represent a minor uptick in 3L hiring. To be sure, however, this is all conjecture based upon my conversation with some partner dood and could be completely untrue, or not. At the very least, it could serve as motivation to get that mail campaign done.
start mass mailing in June for jobs after graduation you say? will they get forgotten/discarded because they were sent too early? i am not being cynical/sarcastic.

Re: 3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:51 pm
by Gatorade
Big Shrimpin wrote:ITE, if you're a jobless 3L, you should go if you get at least one interview. I don't personally know of any success stories, but such stories shouldn't really matter. We all know that 3L hiring, at best, is anemic. TCR is to (1) polish the fck out of your resume/cover letter (e.g. write a specific cover letter for each firm bid), (2) REALLY get ready to interview, do tons of firm research/polish the fck out of your interviewing abilities, etc..., and (3) travel to CHI if you get at least one interview (and one could make the argument that the resume drops/hospitality suites would be worth the trip, depending upon how far away/cost factor).

Moreover, if you're a jobless 3L and you want a firm job, you should be getting ready to mount the mail-campaign of the century. Seriously, dood/anybody else, get ready to fire-off hundreds of resume/cover letter combos as soon as you're done exams (or maybe earlier, I don't have any personal experience with mass-mail, as I only did a small mail campaign last summer).

You never know. I was speaking with a partner at a midsized firm (100+ attorneys) from my hometown. We were discussing the economy, the hiring model, and ITE's "hiring hedging" (relative to the boomtimes, of course). He suggested that, due to how much his firm (which I'd guess is indicative of firms situated similarly to his) had cut back last year/this year and the recent increase in business, they would likely be in the 3L hiring market. Not like a few 3Ls, but one. Tops. Extrapolated across the board could represent a minor uptick in 3L hiring. To be sure, however, this is all conjecture based upon my conversation with some partner dood and could be completely untrue, or not. At the very least, it could serve as motivation to get that mail campaign done.
i did a small scale mail carpet bombing, large firms sent me a letter, medium/smaller firms kept silent. but I will be doing that again! my class mate tried drop by law offices in person and asking for interviews, i am considering doing that after summer.

Re: 3Ls and Loyola patent fair

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:47 pm
by Big Shrimpin
Anonymous User wrote:
Big Shrimpin wrote:ITE, if you're a jobless 3L, you should go if you get at least one interview. I don't personally know of any success stories, but such stories shouldn't really matter. We all know that 3L hiring, at best, is anemic. TCR is to (1) polish the fck out of your resume/cover letter (e.g. write a specific cover letter for each firm bid), (2) REALLY get ready to interview, do tons of firm research/polish the fck out of your interviewing abilities, etc..., and (3) travel to CHI if you get at least one interview (and one could make the argument that the resume drops/hospitality suites would be worth the trip, depending upon how far away/cost factor).

Moreover, if you're a jobless 3L and you want a firm job, you should be getting ready to mount the mail-campaign of the century. Seriously, dood/anybody else, get ready to fire-off hundreds of resume/cover letter combos as soon as you're done exams (or maybe earlier, I don't have any personal experience with mass-mail, as I only did a small mail campaign last summer).

You never know. I was speaking with a partner at a midsized firm (100+ attorneys) from my hometown. We were discussing the economy, the hiring model, and ITE's "hiring hedging" (relative to the boomtimes, of course). He suggested that, due to how much his firm (which I'd guess is indicative of firms situated similarly to his) had cut back last year/this year and the recent increase in business, they would likely be in the 3L hiring market. Not like a few 3Ls, but one. Tops. Extrapolated across the board could represent a minor uptick in 3L hiring. To be sure, however, this is all conjecture based upon my conversation with some partner dood and could be completely untrue, or not. At the very least, it could serve as motivation to get that mail campaign done.
start mass mailing in June for jobs after graduation you say? will they get forgotten/discarded because they were sent too early? i am not being cynical/sarcastic.
I don't know, dood, I never really had to do a huge campaign last summer. If I didn't have a jerb, however, that's what I'd do. I assume/recall from speaking with others that mailing starts in the end of June at the latest, though.