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Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:04 pm
by donzoli
They are the only biglaw firm that does not seem to pay anywhere close to competitive. Is this correct?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:10 pm
by Veyron
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Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:19 pm
by Master Tofu
If I had a dog, it would pay me in crap. I assume Lewis Brisbois would pay in electronic funds.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:21 pm
by Danteshek
Yes. Avoid at all cost.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:21 pm
by Veyron
Danteshek wrote:Yes. Avoid at all cost.
How much DO they pay?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:24 pm
by Master Tofu
I think if you have options, then of course, you should try to aim for the best firm you can get into. But if you had options, you wouldn't really be considering Lewis Brisbois. Take lemons and make lemonade, doods.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:31 pm
by Veyron
Master Tofu wrote:
I think if you have options, then of course, you should try to aim for the best firm you can get into. But if you had options, you wouldn't really be considering Lewis Brisbois. Take lemons and make lemonade, doods.
+ bonus or all-in?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:52 pm
by Sup Kid
The fact that they don't even have a page in the NALP Directory is telling...

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:19 am
by JusticeJackson
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Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:57 pm
by Danteshek
JusticeJackson wrote:I would rather hang a shingle myself than do insurance defense. Aren't there any ticket fixer type places in your home town?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:36 pm
by A'nold
Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:58 pm
by Veyron
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:15 pm
by Danteshek
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
I think you asked the wrong question.

I think you meant to ask the following: "What is wrong with defending Corporations?"

Of course, I don't expect you to know the answer.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:17 pm
by Master Tofu
Danteshek wrote:
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
I think you asked the wrong question.

I think you meant to ask the following: "What is wrong with defending Corporations?"

Of course, I don't expect you to know the answer.
What's wrong with defending corporations?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:20 pm
by keg411
There are major positives to in-house ID work
1) No billable hours
2) Essentially 9-5 and rare weekends
3) Lots of hands-on courtroom experience

But that's only limited to in-house work.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:21 pm
by Danteshek
Master Tofu wrote:
Danteshek wrote:
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
I think you asked the wrong question.

I think you meant to ask the following: "What is wrong with defending Corporations?"

Of course, I don't expect you to know the answer.
What's wrong with defending corporations?
I'll let you learn the hard way.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:22 pm
by A'nold
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
The fact that you'd be defending an entity that its sole purpose and business model is to screw people as much as possible?

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:28 pm
by Danteshek
A'nold wrote:
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
The fact that you'd be defending an entity that its sole purpose and business model is to screw people as much as possible?
Agree with you A'nold. I'm planning to be a plaintiff side securities/FCA lawyer, focused on representing whistleblowers. Fuck Corporations and their fat cat executives.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:29 pm
by Master Tofu
Unbalanced worldview. Good luck with your crusade.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:38 pm
by Danteshek
Master Tofu wrote:Unbalanced worldview. Good luck with your crusade.
At least I'll be motivated for the long term. I see some big settlements in my future.

Good luck rationalizing corporate wrongdoing for the rest of your career.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:41 pm
by Veyron
Danteshek wrote:
Master Tofu wrote:Unbalanced worldview. Good luck with your crusade.
At least I'll be motivated for the long term. I see some big settlements in my future.

Good luck rationalizing corporate wrongdoing for the rest of your career.
Yes, representing the corporations responsible for our prosperity as a nation will make it so very hard to sleep at night. How misguided I was.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:47 pm
by Wholigan
A'nold wrote:
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:Lol. When I mass mailed a few weeks ago I'd be all like "ooh, this firm look o.k." and then I'd see insurance defense and I'd immediately turn the page.

I would likely leave law before I ever defended insurance companies. That's about my one limitation.

Edit: note that I say "likely." If I could not feed my family or something w/out this kind of job of course I'd do it.
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
The fact that you'd be defending an entity that its sole purpose and business model is to screw people as much as possible?
This sounds like what the people from school would say whose daddies do personal injury. Because we all know there has never been a personal injury, worker's comp, or product liability suit whose motives weren't as pure as the driven snow.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:50 pm
by Danteshek
Veyron wrote:
Danteshek wrote:
Master Tofu wrote:Unbalanced worldview. Good luck with your crusade.
At least I'll be motivated for the long term. I see some big settlements in my future.

Good luck rationalizing corporate wrongdoing for the rest of your career.
Yes, representing the corporations responsible for our prosperity as a nation will make it so very hard to sleep at night. How misguided I was.
You are still misguided.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:53 pm
by A'nold
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:
Veyron wrote:
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
The fact that you'd be defending an entity that its sole purpose and business model is to screw people as much as possible?
This sounds like what the people from school would say whose daddies do personal injury. Because we all know there has never been a personal injury, worker's comp, or product liability suit whose motives weren't as pure as the driven snow.
Lol, considering my dad was an unemployed bum that occasionally got a part time janitor job.......

Dude, I saw your comment coming from a mile away. While plaintiff's firms are also out for money, there are a lot of PI peeps out there that also do it for honorable reasons. Insurance companies exist for the sole purpose of getting as much money as possible and trying to give the least amount possible. While some might call this typical business as usual, it is not. Microsoft selling windows does not intentionally try to harm innocent people who have paid for their services.

Re: Does Lewis Brisbois pay like crap?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:57 pm
by Veyron
A'nold wrote:
A'nold wrote:
Veyron wrote:
A'nold wrote:
What is wrong with defending insurance companies?
The fact that you'd be defending an entity that its sole purpose and business model is to screw people as much as possible?
This sounds like what the people from school would say whose daddies do personal injury. Because we all know there has never been a personal injury, worker's comp, or product liability suit whose motives weren't as pure as the driven snow.
Lol, considering my dad was an unemployed bum that occasionally got a part time janitor job.......

Dude, I saw your comment coming from a mile away. While plaintiff's firms are also out for money, there are a lot of PI peeps out there that also do it for honorable reasons. Insurance companies exist for the sole purpose of getting as much money as possible and trying to give the least amount possible. While some might call this typical business as usual, it is not. Microsoft selling windows does not intentionally try to harm innocent people who have paid for their services.
I think you misquoted me there buddy.