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Ended up with 2 A's and an A- putting me at 3.91.

1) Any NYUers here with an idea where, percentage-wise, I have landed in the class?
2) I know how grade-conscious/uneasy about hiring 1Ls most big NYC firms are. Look into the crystal ball and tell me if I can expect anything ITE or if I should just focus on PILC and not get my mass mailing hopes up.

Also - anyone know what the GPA cut-off is for LR, if any? Thanks a bunch guys.

Anecdotally, last year a 3.86+ or so would have been good for LR. 3.9+ I think was good enough for Pomeroy. No idea about 1L SAs, but the only ones I really heard of were either not in NYC or Ann Bryce scholars.

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1. Give me your grades
2. Ummm
3. ???
4. Profit!!!!

Wouldn't count on getting a 1L position unless you're a URM or have something else going for you. I knew a couple people who had better grades than you during the first semester who weren't able to get a 1L SA position. It's worth shooting for, though.

If you can maintain or improve that GPA, you should grade on to LR. Make sure you really want to do it, though. It's a LOT of work (NYU LR in particular has gained some well-deserved notoriety for editor workload), and it doesn't seem to help much in the context of firm recruiting.

Anonymous User wrote:Ended up with 2 A's and an A- putting me at 3.91.

1) Any NYUers here with an idea where, percentage-wise, I have landed in the class?
2) I know how grade-conscious/uneasy about hiring 1Ls most big NYC firms are. Look into the crystal ball and tell me if I can expect anything ITE or if I should just focus on PILC and not get my mass mailing hopes up.

Also - anyone know what the GPA cut-off is for LR, if any? Thanks a bunch guys.

I have similar grades at NYU (3.98, A+, A, A-) and will be pretty much ignoring 1L SA positions. At this point, they've almost all been given out, and I've already gotten notice from a lot of places I applied to in December that they won't be hiring anyone else (and I figure most of the rest will just never contact me). Would have been different if they'd gotten grades to us a week or two earlier, but them's the breaks. I'm just going for the big names at the PILC Fair. Wait for Fall OCI and those sweet V10 2L SAs.

3.91 is Pomeroy-level (top 15 students at graduation), so you're pretty much set. IIRC the Pomeroy cut-off last year was something in the 3.8x range. It was posted on here at some point.

3.86 was the LR cut-off last year for the mixed positions, as others posted.

OP here. Thanks for the candid replies - it's as I thought. I've peppered my home market with a ton of mass mailings and I have at least tried a few big NY firms. We'll see if any bite.

Also: to the guy or gal with the 3.98 - nice fucking work!

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Anonymous User wrote:Ended up with 2 A's and an A- putting me at 3.91.

1) Any NYUers here with an idea where, percentage-wise, I have landed in the class?
2) I know how grade-conscious/uneasy about hiring 1Ls most big NYC firms are. Look into the crystal ball and tell me if I can expect anything ITE or if I should just focus on PILC and not get my mass mailing hopes up.

Also - anyone know what the GPA cut-off is for LR, if any? Thanks a bunch guys.

How'd you calculate that to be a 3.91? I thought with the respective weights and with an A- being a 3.67 that the range for those grades would be 3.87-3.89...maybe i'm doing something wrong..

You are correct. It's a 3.89. Whoops.

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Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Ended up with 2 A's and an A- putting me at 3.91.

1) Any NYUers here with an idea where, percentage-wise, I have landed in the class?
2) I know how grade-conscious/uneasy about hiring 1Ls most big NYC firms are. Look into the crystal ball and tell me if I can expect anything ITE or if I should just focus on PILC and not get my mass mailing hopes up.

Also - anyone know what the GPA cut-off is for LR, if any? Thanks a bunch guys.

How'd you calculate that to be a 3.91? I thought with the respective weights and with an A- being a 3.67 that the range for those grades would be 3.87-3.89...maybe i'm doing something wrong..

You are correct. It's a 3.89. Whoops.

Wow that is brutal that you have such a high GPA and cannot land a 1L SA. I know 1L summers are rare, but is the fact that you cant land a 1L SA because of the economy or a function of the recruiting process?

Anonymous User wrote:Wow that is brutal that you have such a high GPA and cannot land a 1L SA. I know 1L summers are rare, but is the fact that you cant land a 1L SA because of the economy or a function of the recruiting process?

OP here. My guess is that it's a combination of both, plus the fact that New York is (most) everyone's top choice, so it is quite flooded with talented 2Ls who stamp out 1L chances. This is probably why smaller markets in the Midwest and the South are more friendly in terms of 1L hiring.

Side note: I actually did receive an offer from a V20 firm after interviewing a couple of weeks ago. Unicorns can be caught.

congratulations on your offer!

(At least) 2 employed 1Ls @ NYU. Moral of the story: GO TO NYU, NOT COLUMBIA OR CHICAGO.

congrats on the offer! that is awesome news. was this from dec 1 mass mailing? when did you interview? I have a 3.79 (A, A, B+) after first semester and only landed one firm interview. definitely not getting my hopes up at this point and focusing on PILC/gov't.

Bumping this thread to see if any rising 2Ls at nyu want to share what happened to people they knew for this summer? Really few sa positions given to 1Ls?

thecilent wrote:Bumping this thread to see if any rising 2Ls at nyu want to share what happened to people they knew for this summer? Really few sa positions given to 1Ls?

i'm only aware of 4 people who even tried to get sa positions, but all of them happened to get one. of course the vast majority ended up in public interest, though i also know a couple that got paid in-house gigs. 1L sa positions are never going to plentiful, but it doesn't look impossible, either.

1L SA spots are very rare. Many firms limit by creating a 1-2 "diversity" spots. CCN student here, most of the 1Ls I know who got 1L SA spots got the aforementioned diversity positions. A couple did not.

I know more non-diversity 1L SAs than I thought I would. Can think of 4 off the top of my head.

That being said, they're rare. If you want to do one make sure you all your crap lined up before Dec 1, and send it all on Dec 1. Don't list to CSO, which will tell you to wait until after finals.

Stanford4Me wrote:I know more non-diversity 1L SAs than I thought I would. Can think of 4 off the top of my head.

That being said, they're rare. If you want to do one make sure you all your crap lined up before Dec 1, and send it all on Dec 1. Don't list to CSO, which will tell you to wait until after finals.

but you don't have grades on Dec 1, right? So do employers that like you simply put you on hold until grades go out? how does this all work?


(also... i'm kind of sad that a 3.89 was advised not to apply for 1L SA. That is seriously brutal)

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Stanford4Me wrote:I know more non-diversity 1L SAs than I thought I would. Can think of 4 off the top of my head.

That being said, they're rare. If you want to do one make sure you all your crap lined up before Dec 1, and send it all on Dec 1. Don't list to CSO, which will tell you to wait until after finals.

but you don't have grades on Dec 1, right? So do employers that like you simply put you on hold until grades go out? how does this all work?


(also... i'm kind of sad that a 3.89 was advised not to apply for 1L SA. That is seriously brutal)

Depends on what market you're applying in and what school you're going to. In NYC they'll interview you pre-grades but wait to give you an offer until after they see your grades.* In Texas (where I work) I received multiple offers before my grades came out, though students from Texas schools didn't receive offers until they submitted their grades.

*My knowledge of the NYC market, even though I go to school there, is based only on hearsay.