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Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:32 pm
by Anonymous User
I am going to be sending out my final 1L summer apps over the next few weeks. In order to decide for which jobs I am most competitive (i.e. where to invest my time and effort), I would like to figure out where I stand relative to the rest of my class.

However, I go to Berkeley, which does not release rankings, and I am wondering if some of you may be able to help me figure out (roughly) where I stand.

Boalt requires four classes the first semester, three of which are graded (LRW is Credit/No Credit). Grades are assigned on the following scale: HH = top 10%, H= 11-30%, and P = the bottom 60%

I have so far received an HH in torts and a P in property. I am assuming I got either an H or a P in Civ Pro. Can anyone help me figure out where I will stand in either of the two cases?

Edit for more info: We are awarded 5 points per class unit for an HH, 3 points per class unit of an H, and 2 points per class unit for a P

Torts is a 5 unit course, as is Civ Pro. Property is 4 units.

I am honestly not sure if there is enough info to give me answer. Sorry for wasting anyone's time if there is not. Thanks for reading.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:41 pm
by UnitarySpace
You can't make any reliable estimates without more information.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:42 pm
by InLikeFlint
Anonymous User wrote:I am going to be sending out my final 1L summer apps over the next few weeks. In order to decide for which jobs I am most competitive (i.e. where to invest my time and effort), I would like to figure out where I stand relative to the rest of my class.

However, I go to Berkeley, which does not release rankings, and I am wondering if some of you may be able to help me figure out (roughly) where I stand.

Boalt requires four classes the first semester, three of which are graded (LRW is Credit/No Credit). Grades are assigned on the following scale: HH = top 10%, H= 11-30%, and P = the bottom 60%

I have so far received an HH in torts and a P in property. I am assuming I got either an H or a P in Civ Pro. Can anyone help me figure out where I will stand in either of the two cases?
I have a limited knowledge of statistics, but wouldn't you need to know how well a student's grade in one class correlated to their other classes to figure this out?

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:42 pm
by Anonymous User
You can't make any reliable estimates without more information.
Thought this might be the case. What other information would be necessary?

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:47 pm
by A&O
In retrospect, probably a good idea that you didn't forward that sole HH to the firm when you received it, right?

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:51 pm
by bdubs
Does Berkeley publish GPA distributions from prior classes (for first semester)? That might help you figure out how the distribution of grades looks across students.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:51 pm
by Anonymous User
In retrospect, probably a good idea that you didn't forward that sole HH to the firm when you received it, right?
Probably.

Maybe someday you will realize, in retrospect, that it is not a good idea to condescendingly out people who are earnestly seeking advice. But I guess you were just so proud of yourself for putting two anon posts together that you couldn't resist publicly self-fellating. That's cool.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:01 pm
by ggocat
Anonymous User wrote:
In retrospect, probably a good idea that you didn't forward that sole HH to the firm when you received it, right?
Probably.

Maybe someday you will realize, in retrospect, that it is not a good idea to condescendingly out people who are earnestly seeking advice. But I guess you were just so proud of yourself for putting two anon posts together that you couldn't resist publicly self-fellating. That's cool.
Maybe you shouldn't use the anon feature unless you are revealing sensitive information about a firm, job, clerkship, etc.

All of these threads in the legal employment board made solely so people can talk about grades anonymously are getting annoying.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:03 pm
by Anonymous User
Maybe you shouldn't use the anon feature unless you are revealing sensitive information about a firm, job, clerkship, etc.
Grades not sensitive information? I have classmates on here that know my username. Seems reasonable to me - and also to TLS*

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I. The anonymous post feature is meant to be used in a limited sense for when someone is disclosing information that might actually be sensitive in some manner. This can include information about grades, where a person has interviewed/received job offers, and other information that might identify them if their username was known.

Re: Any statisticians out there?

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:21 pm
by A&O
Anonymous User wrote:
In retrospect, probably a good idea that you didn't forward that sole HH to the firm when you received it, right?
Probably.

Maybe someday you will realize, in retrospect, that it is not a good idea to condescendingly out people who are earnestly seeking advice. But I guess you were just so proud of yourself for putting two anon posts together that you couldn't resist publicly self-fellating. That's cool.
u mad?