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Is sending out resumes to firms at this point a waste of time? Any thoughts or knowledge on hiring timelines would be appreciated.

sorry, I accidentally posted anon, I know that's a no-no.

No, but be prepared for a lot more insta-dings because many firms are indeed finished (especially if your grades don't make you competitive)

Anonymous User wrote:Is sending out resumes to firms at this point a waste of time? Any thoughts or knowledge on hiring timelines would be appreciated.

If you don't have a job at this point, whats the harm in trying? I got a callback with a firm I emailed two weeks ago. Granted, two weeks is a lot of time, but its worth a shot.

True, just feeling like it's a black hole. I'm broadening my search a lot I just keep kicking myself because if I had broadened it earlier I might have been in a different boat. Sucks to feel like I missed opportunities.

Yes, it ended in 2008.

hahahahahahaha that was a nice one

ASM11 wrote:True, just feeling like it's a black hole. I'm broadening my search a lot I just keep kicking myself because if I had broadened it earlier I might have been in a different boat. Sucks to feel like I missed opportunities.

To those of you who read this thread in the future, pay attention to what this person just said.

Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is. Go to job fairs, target mail firms, and network your ass off. Before you get back to school in August you should have already sent out app packages to firms.

p.s. op, keep trying. For the most part, hiring may actually be over, but everyone is not done yet; I'm sure you can find something. Just try not to get discouraged by the rejections.

Aqualibrium wrote:

ASM11 wrote:True, just feeling like it's a black hole. I'm broadening my search a lot I just keep kicking myself because if I had broadened it earlier I might have been in a different boat. Sucks to feel like I missed opportunities.

To those of you who read this thread in the future, pay attention to what this person just said.

Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is. Go to job fairs, target mail firms, and network your ass off. Before you get back to school in August you should have already sent out app packages to firms.

p.s. op, keep trying. For the most part, hiring may actually be over, but everyone is not done yet; I'm sure you can find something. Just try not to get discouraged by the rejections.

Yeah thanks, I just feel like I'm doing it blindly...with time running out I really want to target the right stuff, but I feel like its so opaque.

And you're right - I wish I had felt desperate when this all started. I would have gone about it differently.

Nope, hiring is not over. I got a call from a firm from my resume spam just yesterday (dla piper, won't specify the office). I won't be taking it (finally got an offer from my OCI, huzzah!), but the hiring is still going on. Just start sending out now.

Anonymous User wrote:Nope, hiring is not over. I got a call from a firm from my resume spam just yesterday (DLA Piper, won't specify the office). I won't be taking it (finally got an offer from my OCI, huzzah!), but the hiring is still going on. Just start sending out now.

Out of curiosity, I resume spammed a couple dla piper offices about two weeks ago. When did you spam them?

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

exaggeration much.

JG Hall wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

exaggeration much.

This is not an exaggeration. I know a guy with a GPA just shy of 4.0 at a T14 who got only one offer in the market he mainly concentrated on. Shit happens and you can get unlucky.

Also, people got callbacks from a V20 firm this week, well over a month post-OCI.

It's late in the game, yes, but if you don’t have a job yet what choice do you have but to send out resumes, regardless of the odds? Still, hiring is not over. I received an offer Monday and have had 2 other callbacks this week.

JG Hall wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

exaggeration much.

Talk out of your ass much? I, and other posters here, can name countless people we personally know with great grades at great schools who relied solely on OCI and ended with nothing or something by just the skin of their teeth.

I don't care what school you go to, or how you eventually end up with regards to jobs, if OCI is the only thing you rely on for a job, YOU ARE UNWISE. That's putting it kindly.

Aqualibrium wrote:

JG Hall wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

exaggeration much.

Talk out of your ass much? I, and other posters here, can name countless people we personally know with great grades at great schools who relied solely on OCI and ended with nothing or something by just the skin of their teeth.

Lies, the top 10% at Yale can very comfortably rely on OCI, you are obviously a poorly informed dimwit, sorry bro.

Veyron wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:

JG Hall wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

exaggeration much.

Talk out of your ass much? I, and other posters here, can name countless people we personally know with great grades at great schools who relied solely on OCI and ended with nothing or something by just the skin of their teeth.

Lies, the top 10% at Yale can very comfortably rely on OCI, you are obviously a poorly informed dimwit, sorry bro.

Not sure if this is trolling or if you're being serious. My response, do whatever you want. If you think that you don't have to put any effort into getting a job because it'll take care of itself through the OCI process, I really do wish you the best of luck.

[/quote] Lies, the top 10% at Yale can very comfortably rely on OCI, you are obviously a poorly informed dimwit, sorry bro.[/quote]

Not sure if this is trolling or if you're being serious. My response, do whatever you want. If you think that you don't have to put any effort into getting a job because it'll take care of itself through the OCI process, I really do wish you the best of luck.[/quote]

I see you're a current applicant so I'm going to cut you some slack for being an idiot just this once. Don't do it again.

JG Hall wrote:

Aqualibrium wrote:Do not rely solely on OCI no matter what your grades are like or where your school is.

I completely agree with this. If you are in a good position at a good school, wise bidding and minimal interview prep should get you something out of OCI, but this is by no means a guarantee. I know most of the law review grade-ons at my school (MVP), and several came dangerously close to striking out. Mass mailing is unnecessary, of course, but in retrospect I would recommend everyone do at least a few targeted mailings. Also, doing mailings gives you a decent shot at entering OCI with multiple callbacks lined up, which would have been a much-needed confidence booster for myself and many others.

Veyron wrote: I see you're a current applicant so I'm going to cut you some slack for being an idiot just this once. Don't do it again.

LOL ok, Now I know you're kidding. Thanks for clarifying.

Big firm hiring definitely isn't over yet. I had a callback last week and know for a fact that my application will be reviewed early next week. Okay, I guess hiring could be done, but recruiting work is not.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Nope, hiring is not over. I got a call from a firm from my resume spam just yesterday (DLA Piper, won't specify the office). I won't be taking it (finally got an offer from my OCI, huzzah!), but the hiring is still going on. Just start sending out now.

Out of curiosity, I resume spammed a couple DLA Piper offices about two weeks ago. When did you spam them?

About two weeks ago. Got the rejections from a few of the other offices before the interview with this one.

did you email dla? i have emailed 2 of the offices a couple of times (initial + follow up) AND applied for 1L positions and never received a single response. so weird. (and i have good grades, t5 school, so it's not like i'm so unqualified that they'd immediately just delete my email).

Crap, that was supposed to be anonymous. If a mod comes along, please change my above post to anonymous. If none does, oh well I guess.

To answer questions: no, it was not DC or Baltimore. And I submitted it over the Symplicity resume collect.

I REALLY should not say anymore at this point, since I accidentally outed myself.

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:Nope, hiring is not over. I got a call from a firm from my resume spam just yesterday (DLA Piper, won't specify the office). I won't be taking it (finally got an offer from my OCI, huzzah!), but the hiring is still going on. Just start sending out now.

Out of curiosity, I resume spammed a couple DLA Piper offices about two weeks ago. When did you spam them?

About two weeks ago. Got the rejections from a few of the other offices before the interview with this one.

Can you confirm, if possible, whether it was either the DC or Baltimore office (don't need to specify which)? I hit both those about two weeks ago as well.