Firm has you waitlisted, asks you where you have offers
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:10 pm
Do you say firm names? At this point, it's obvious I'm not "really wanted" by the firm...to tell or not to tell?
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Check the Vault rankings and look at the three firms ranked directly above them. Those are the three that have given you offers; provided, of course, they have offices in the same city as the firm that asked you.doyleoil wrote:If they ask you, it's perfectly appropriate to tell them. If they don't ask you, but you think your acceptances will give you some leverage, it's also perfectly appropriate to "name-drop" anyway. Use every trick in your bag, IMO.
If, however, they ask you about your offers, and you don't really want to tell them, then you're kinda screwed, because I can't see any way you can decline the request without it coming off poorly.
Many legal recruiters have told many stories of candidates getting caught doing this sort of thing.Pablo Ramirez wrote:Check the Vault rankings and look at the three firms ranked directly above them. Those are the three that have given you offers; provided, of course, they have offices in the same city as the firm that asked you.doyleoil wrote:If they ask you, it's perfectly appropriate to tell them. If they don't ask you, but you think your acceptances will give you some leverage, it's also perfectly appropriate to "name-drop" anyway. Use every trick in your bag, IMO.
If, however, they ask you about your offers, and you don't really want to tell them, then you're kinda screwed, because I can't see any way you can decline the request without it coming off poorly.
HTH.
LIES!Renzo wrote:Many legal recruiters have told many stories of candidates getting caught doing this sort of thing.Pablo Ramirez wrote:Check the Vault rankings and look at the three firms ranked directly above them. Those are the three that have given you offers; provided, of course, they have offices in the same city as the firm that asked you.doyleoil wrote:If they ask you, it's perfectly appropriate to tell them. If they don't ask you, but you think your acceptances will give you some leverage, it's also perfectly appropriate to "name-drop" anyway. Use every trick in your bag, IMO.
If, however, they ask you about your offers, and you don't really want to tell them, then you're kinda screwed, because I can't see any way you can decline the request without it coming off poorly.
HTH.
But if you say your other offer is from Jacoby & Myers, you're getting dinged anyway. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.Pablo Ramirez wrote:LIES!Renzo wrote:Many legal recruiters have told many stories of candidates getting caught doing this sort of thing.Pablo Ramirez wrote:Check the Vault rankings and look at the three firms ranked directly above them. Those are the three that have given you offers; provided, of course, they have offices in the same city as the firm that asked you.doyleoil wrote:If they ask you, it's perfectly appropriate to tell them. If they don't ask you, but you think your acceptances will give you some leverage, it's also perfectly appropriate to "name-drop" anyway. Use every trick in your bag, IMO.
If, however, they ask you about your offers, and you don't really want to tell them, then you're kinda screwed, because I can't see any way you can decline the request without it coming off poorly.
HTH.
I kind of just laughed it off and mentioned it was a large firm - not sure how that came off. I do have offers from higher ranked firms, but I didn't mention them because I wasn't sure if I was supposed to given that I am on the waitlist and the firm is still unsure about me. It may have come off poorly because I didn't mention names, but I guess it's too late to go back in time now.CanadianWolf wrote:Have you considered telling them that you prefer to treat pending offers as a confidential matter until concluded ? I understand that when one has multiple offers that it may be a negotiating advantage when dealing with a firm that has made an offer, but in this case it seems inappropriate to disclose. However, if you do not have any other offers, then tell them so.
Yeah, they asked you so that they could give you a final decision before your next offer expires.Anonymous User wrote:I was actually asked this as well, but not "where" I have offers. They just asked if I have any deadlines. I have no idea why they would ask this, though. Any speculations?
TCR, but I think the poster may have meant why the firm asked me "where" I had offers.KMaine wrote:Yeah, they asked you so that they could give you a final decision before your next offer expires.Anonymous User wrote:I was actually asked this as well, but not "where" I have offers. They just asked if I have any deadlines. I have no idea why they would ask this, though. Any speculations?
This is the OP. I must have given a terrible non-response and/or the firm didn't really like me because I got dinged 2 days later.Anonymous User wrote:TCR, but I think the poster may have meant why the firm asked me "where" I had offers.KMaine wrote:Yeah, they asked you so that they could give you a final decision before your next offer expires.Anonymous User wrote:I was actually asked this as well, but not "where" I have offers. They just asked if I have any deadlines. I have no idea why they would ask this, though. Any speculations?
Tbh, I don't know why they asked me where I had offers. I only mentioned my earliest deadline too, and I didn't mention firm names. I think I gave a terrible non-response. The question kind of took me off guard since other firms have asked me about deadlines but not firm names.
[If it's at a callback, just be honest and say you don't have deadlines right now.] However, in line with this thread, post-callback, a firm shouldn't ask you this unless you call to ask your status. If you are waitlisted and you don't have impending deadlines, I would not call firms to get your decision. At this point, firms should have given out all of their first round offers, meaning that they are now waiting to see who will accept. Your best bet is to wait without contacting the firm, because firms are more likely to reject a candidate who asks to push their deadline than give them an offer because they have already given their first round of offers and don't want to risk an excess of people accepting an offer.Anonymous User wrote:What if a firm asks you this and you DON'T have offers?