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1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

Anonymous User wrote:1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

If non-URM and you don't have any special "in," your chances are roughly 0%.

A guy with credentials similar to mine from UVA got 3 1L SA offers. Not a URM and no special in. T26 is not UVA, but there seems be huge demand for accountants in transactional practice. I know it is not a shoe in, mainly looking for advises in raising that 0% to 1.5%.

Anonymous User wrote:A guy with credentials similar to mine from UVA got 3 1L SA offers. Not a URM and no special in. T26 is not UVA, but there seems be huge demand for accountants in transactional practice. I know it is not a shoe in, mainly looking for advises in raising that 0% to 1.5%.

Apply to firms that hire 1Ls. Get good grades. Pray.

What were you expecting to hear?

Maybe highlight some firms that are especially friendly to experienced 1L SAs. Cant get that info on NALP

I think you're wasting your time if you're trying to target 1L apps. Spam away, man.

1L at Columbia/NYU (don't want to specify). Black male. How do I find out which firms have 1L summer positions? And how do I apply to those positions in December without grades?

Anonymous User wrote:1L at Columbia/NYU (don't want to specify). Black male. How do I find out which firms have 1L summer positions? And how do I apply to those positions in December without grades?

You simply apply without a transcript-- firms understand that you don't have grades yet. Just include a line in your introductory letter/ email saying you'll be more than happy to send along grades as soon as they become available.

BTW your best shot at a 1L summer gig is, at least the way I see it, to apply for a diversity fellowship or diversity law clerk something. A good number of firms seem to have these (I noticed while I was applying that I had no shot at these places as a 1L, being non-URM.) The firms will list and describe the program in the careers section of their website; shouldn't be hard to put together a (relatively small) list, depending on the city you want.

Hope this helps!

And, unsolicited advice, don't waste hundreds of hours mass-mailing for a 1L gig; I did it and it was a complete waste of time (HYS, median grades.) Do what you can through networking and focus like hell on nabbing a substantive PI job, preferably in the market you want to lottery into for 2L OCI, and that will give you ample things to talk about in interviews re: transferable skills, etc. Best of luck!

RVP11 wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

If non-URM and you don't have any special "in," your chances are roughly 0%.

Ignorant guy is ignorant. At my T20, I happen to know several classmates off the top of my head who got 1L Biglaw SAs before their grades came out - all because they had work experience. At least one of them had been in accounting before law school. Work experience is the most important factor for getting a 1L SA.

OP, apply on December 1st and blanket the big firms in your target market. It's always a crapshoot, but I think you stand a damn fine chance of getting a position.

Anonymous User wrote:

RVP11 wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

If non-URM and you don't have any special "in," your chances are roughly 0%.

Ignorant guy is ignorant. At my T20, I happen to know several classmates off the top of my head who got 1L Biglaw SAs before their grades came out - all because they had work experience. At least one of them had been in accounting before law school. Work experience is the most important factor for getting a 1L SA.

OP, apply on December 1st and blanket the big firms in your target market. It's always a crapshoot, but I think you stand a damn fine chance of getting a position.

Thanks for encouraging information! I will blanket bomb.

Lulz @ T26

rad law wrote:Lulz @ T26

Yeah that was about the point at which I stopped taking this thread seriously.

On a serious note, there are some firms that hire 1Ls. I know of one in my local market that likes to "breed from within" or so I hear. But it is rare, especially if you are not a URM.

There are diversity fellowships for URM's outside of SEO?

bk187 wrote:There are diversity fellowships for URM's outside of SEO?

SEO is a 0L thing. There a lot of diversity programs that aim specifically at 1Ls.

romothesavior wrote:

rad law wrote:Lulz @ T26

Yeah that was about the point at which I stopped taking this thread seriously.

I stopped at 1L SA chances

ok, i have no chances, it is ok

Anonymous User wrote:1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

LOL IOWA.

Desert Fox wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:1L at a top 26 law school, 4 years of accounting experience, Big 4 , CPA, summa cum laude undergrad in accounting and finance. No grades yet, naturally. Chances at getting 1L SA at big law transactional? Tips on where to apply?

LOL IOWA.

I actually had to go look that up.

go hawkeyes!

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From what I gather, look to smaller markets. Fake being gay too.

Career Offices does not talk to any 1Ls until November 1, buddy. See, u learned something today too.

dood wrote:PSA for all URMs: TALK TO UR CDO NOW. id estimate at least 20-30 1L SA + schollys from big firms u can apply to, prolly alot more. dunno about ur school, GW has a special diversity career counselor that sends all this info out.

second of all, even non-urm 1L have chances. whoever the fuck said NALP was not helpful obviously never looked at NALP.....u can search by what firms higher 1L SAs...

PSA: Aside from NALP being helpful, they also have guidelines. Your CSO/CDO is not allowed to give advice until November, so do not TALK TO THEM NOW.

romothesavior wrote:

dood wrote:PSA for all URMs: TALK TO UR CDO NOW. id estimate at least 20-30 1L SA + schollys from big firms u can apply to, prolly alot more. dunno about ur school, GW has a special diversity career counselor that sends all this info out.

second of all, even non-urm 1L have chances. whoever the fuck said NALP was not helpful obviously never looked at NALP.....u can search by what firms higher 1L SAs...

PSA: Aside from NALP being helpful, they also have guidelines. Your CSO/CDO is not allowed to give advice until November, so do not TALK TO THEM NOW.

Amen to that

dood wrote:PSA for all URMs: TALK TO UR CDO NOW. id estimate at least 20-30 1L SA + schollys from big firms u can apply to, prolly alot more. dunno about ur school, GW has a special diversity career counselor that sends all this info out.

second of all, even non-urm 1L have chances. whoever the fuck said NALP was not helpful obviously never looked at NALP.....u can search by what firms higher 1L SAs...

No, he/she should talk to the 2Ls and 3Ls now, who would probably give better advice and better yet, not get the OP in trouble.