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i'm really getting tired of this shit

That's not bad at all.

1. I assume you took these 4 interviews recently, and should probably understand that some firms don't get back to you within 48 hours.

2. 0 for 4 isn't bad. At all. I know people, good candidates in fact, who are 0 and 11, or 0 and 15. Here's some anecdotal evidence: the average amount of interviews for CLS is around 16. The average amount of callbacks is 1-3.

In conclusion, methinks you really misunderstand the odds. Either that or this is a flame.

33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

Anonymous User wrote:33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

mollie wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

yeah. feeling hopeless.

Anonymous User wrote:33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

I...I don't want to.

But seriously, as stated previously, many firms don't get back to you right away. Just be patient and relax (though I know you likely won't listen to some random anon poster).

Anonymous User wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

I...I don't want to.

But seriously, as stated previously, many firms don't get back to you right away. Just be patient and relax (though I know you likely won't listen to some random anon poster).

but how long is too long? i had some of these nearly 3 weeks ago...

Anonymous User wrote:
but how long is too long? i had some of these nearly 3 weeks ago...

Eh...unless we're talking about firms where you applied to their regional office, then 3 weeks is likely too long. OCS stated that it could be within 1 to 3 weeks, though I find that sort of hard to believe.

That being said, one of my interviews was for a firm's regional office, and the partner described to me that it usually takes longer, due to the travel and discussion with the other partners where they're located; the partner even said it generally takes 3 weeks. And no, I don't think he/she lied, as there was simply no reason to, and the interview went well (I hope).

Regardless, if only "some" of your 33 interviews took place 3 weeks ago, I still wouldn't be terribly concerned. Honestly, a 1 to 2 week delay in response isn't nearly as unheard of as some on this board make it out to be. So again, relax.

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bwv812 wrote:

Anonymous User wrote:33 interviews, 0 callbacks. beat that.

Prescreens? Pre-OCI? There's the possibility they want to do OCI at your school (and perhaps others) before extending callbacks.

On the other hand, if it was 33 lottery and you have middling grades, then it might not get much better.

at least 28 were prescreens. before/during/after my school's oci - the final set was last friday. grades aren't what i would call middling (just missed the top 10% cutoff), but it seems like they're just not good enough for firms.

edit: from my school. T22.

I've only got 3 callbacks thus far out of like 15 interviews. It's really tough, meng. They do shit like schedule 6 interviews in one day, and it's not easy to manage knowledge about all those firms.

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Anonymous User wrote: 2. 0 for 4 isn't bad. At all. I know people, good candidates in fact, who are 0 and 11, or 0 and 15. Here's some anecdotal evidence: the average amount of interviews for CLS is around 16. The average amount of callbacks is 1-3.

Depressing. I was getting a little more hope after reading the anecdotes on TLS, but I guess people with good results are more likely to post than those without any cbs.

Anonymous User wrote: at least 28 were prescreens.

28 prescreens? Try not to stress too much. Unless you're a terrible interviewer, you will probably wind up pulling off a few callbacks.

For any math whizzes, assuming a callback to offer rate of 33%, how many callbacks would it take for a 80% chance of an offer?

Kohinoor wrote:For any math whizzes, assuming a callback to offer rate of 33%, how many callbacks would it take for a 80% chance of an offer?

4 is the answer if it's independent. (i.e. there is almost an exactly 20% chance of getting 0 offers after 4 callbacks that each had a rigid and independent 33% chance of netting an offer).

But it's not. Some firms (S&C, Cravath, STB) are notorious for 75%+ offer rates. Others (DPW) are notorious for much lower offer rates. Other variables incldue:

What school you're at, when you schedule the CB for, how many people have had CBs before you, whether or not the U.S. Economy teeters on the brink of utter destruction in-between your CB invitation and the CB itself, whether you were a strong or borderline candidate based on numbers at the time you received the CB, how well you perform on your CB, whether or not you attempt to get reimbursed for bottle service and hookers after the CB, etc. Plus, candidates tend to be stronger or weaker, so some will see above average results across the board and others will see below average results across the board.

Kohinoor wrote:For any math whizzes, assuming a callback to offer rate of 33%, how many callbacks would it take for a 80% chance of an offer?

about 4


Math:

The chance of striking out w/...

1 CB is 2/3 = ~66.7%
2 CBs is (2/3 * 2/3) = ~44%
3 CBs is (2/3 * 2/3 * 2/3) = ~30%
4 CBs is (2/3 * 2/3 * 2/3 * 2/3) = ~20% which means you have an 80% chance of getting an offer

At least you aren't in a situation where you've had 9 interviews, 2 dings, and complete silence from everyone else.

just remember, it's their loss.

hithere wrote:just remember, it's their loss.

please pass the bong

I don't think you can uniformly say that there is a 1-3 week waiting period for callbacks. I've had firms not call me back until over a month had passed. You have to realize that many firms probably have what I call knock out meetings. They have a large pool of people that they have already interviewed, and as they interview more, they evaluate all candidates and knock out certain ones. IMO a long wait means you're still in the running. Plus it's much better than a rejection letter the day of the interview.

Also, I worked with a kid from YHS this summer; over 100 interviews and not one call back (he got the job with my firm w/o an interview). Beat that!

disco_barred wrote:Some firms (S&C, Cravath, STB) are notorious for 75%+ offer rates. Others (DPW) are notorious for much lower offer rates. Other variables incldue:

What school you're at, when you schedule the CB for, how many people have had CBs before you, whether or not the U.S. Economy teeters on the brink of utter destruction in-between your CB invitation and the CB itself, whether you were a strong or borderline candidate based on numbers at the time you received the CB, how well you perform on your CB, whether or not you attempt to get reimbursed for bottle service and hookers after the CB, etc. Plus, candidates tend to be stronger or weaker, so some will see above average results across the board and others will see below average results across the board.

How do you know the bolded? I'm not trying to be snarky; I am genuinely curious. Also, do you have any idea what Ropes & Gray and Jones Day are like?

Anonymous User wrote:

disco_barred wrote:Some firms (S&C, Cravath, STB) are notorious for 75%+ offer rates. Others (DPW) are notorious for much lower offer rates. Other variables incldue:

What school you're at, when you schedule the CB for, how many people have had CBs before you, whether or not the U.S. Economy teeters on the brink of utter destruction in-between your CB invitation and the CB itself, whether you were a strong or borderline candidate based on numbers at the time you received the CB, how well you perform on your CB, whether or not you attempt to get reimbursed for bottle service and hookers after the CB, etc. Plus, candidates tend to be stronger or weaker, so some will see above average results across the board and others will see below average results across the board.

How do you know the bolded? I'm not trying to be snarky; I am genuinely curious. Also, do you have any idea what Ropes & Gray and Jones Day are like?

Both have high offer rates historically (north of 70%). Some schools compile data and so some of us have access to it. Offer rates were largely down across the board last year, but firms may be better able to manage their numbers this time around.

Anonymous User wrote:

disco_barred wrote:Some firms (S&C, Cravath, STB) are notorious for 75%+ offer rates. Others (DPW) are notorious for much lower offer rates. Other variables incldue:

What school you're at, when you schedule the CB for, how many people have had CBs before you, whether or not the U.S. Economy teeters on the brink of utter destruction in-between your CB invitation and the CB itself, whether you were a strong or borderline candidate based on numbers at the time you received the CB, how well you perform on your CB, whether or not you attempt to get reimbursed for bottle service and hookers after the CB, etc. Plus, candidates tend to be stronger or weaker, so some will see above average results across the board and others will see below average results across the board.

How do you know the bolded? I'm not trying to be snarky; I am genuinely curious. Also, do you have any idea what Ropes & Gray and Jones Day are like?

Without knowing about reputations for lower offer rates, the firms with hella high offer rates are quite well known. S&C moves quickly from interview to callback (hours rather than days) and has a very high cb to offer rate.