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Ordered bids, top 20. Interest in IP litigation (technical background). Assume NY unless noted. Have bunch of other interviews through PLIP covering reaches/safeties in Chicago.

1) Fried Frank
2) Simpson Thacher
3) Shearman & Sterling
4) Fitzpatrick Cella
5) Cahill Gordon
6) Ropes & Gray
7) Kay Scholer
8 ) Allen & Overy
9) Wiley Rein (DC)
10) hogan lovells (DC)
11) Sidley (DC)
12) Proskauer
13) Paul Hastings
14) Weil Gotshal
15) Dewey & LeBoeuf
16) Milbank
17) Skadden NY
19) Latham
19) Cadwalader
20) Chadbourne & Parke

weird firm choices for IP law, given that 20% data is not available to anyone at NU but a handful of people in the Registrar's office, I'm assuming you're guesstimating this entirely, what is your GPA (ballpark)?

I would NOT tell an employer I'm 20% - but I'm assuming you're planning on doing this, could easily be wrong.

Isn't the cut-off for top 20% at NU like a 4.0?

TheBigMediocre wrote:Isn't the cut-off for top 20% at NU like a 4.0?

pretty sure there's like 10 kids who graduate every year with a 4.0+
That's like.. ~3%

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as an NU student, I gotta defend this: that's the MAX CURVE, and that's not A's, that's A-, A, A+, so that's the A range.

A lot of professors DON'T apply the max-curve - I know this first hand.

Anonymous User wrote:weird firm choices for IP law, given that 20% data is not available to anyone at NU but a handful of people in the Registrar's office, I'm assuming you're guesstimating this entirely, what is your GPA (ballpark)?

I would NOT tell an employer I'm 20% - but I'm assuming you're planning on doing this, could easily be wrong.

Looking at GP firms with big classes + IP lit departments.

GPA is ~3.75. Yes I'm guesstimating so people could give bidding advice. Why on earth would I tell an employer my guesstimated class rank? They have their GPA charts.

No Jenner or Mayer?

EDIT: Oh, NYC nevermind, sorry I'm tired.

like anyone on TLS is going to say something so profound to make you change your mind

Bankhead wrote:No Jenner or Mayer?

Got Kirkland, Jenner, Winston, etc, through PLIP.

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Anonymous User wrote:Ordered bids, top 20. Interest in IP litigation (technical background). Assume NY unless noted. Have bunch of other interviews through PLIP covering reaches/safeties in Chicago.

1) Fried Frank
2) Simpson Thacher
3) Shearman & Sterling
4) Fitzpatrick Cella
5) Cahill Gordon
6) Ropes & Gray
7) Kay Scholer
8 ) Allen & Overy
9) Wiley Rein (DC)
10) Hogan Lovells (DC)
11) Sidley (DC)
12) Proskauer
13) Paul Hastings
14) Weil Gotshal
15) Dewey & LeBoeuf
16) Milbank
17) Skadden NY
19) Latham
19) Cadwalader
20) Chadbourne & Parke

Half of these firms are non-players in IP. For them, I wouldn't even discuss wanting to work in the IP group. Also, with respect to Weil, their IP presence is in SV. Weil NY IP sucks. The IP players in NY are Kirkland, and then Ropes in a not-so-distant second (after the departure of Desmarais from Kirkland).

Intellectual Property: Patent: New York

Band 1
Fitzpatrick, Cella, Harper & Scinto
Kirkland & Ellis LLP
Ropes & Gray LLP

Band 2
Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Kaye Scholer LLP

Band 3
Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft LLP
Fish & Richardson PC
goodwin procter llp
Kenyon & Kenyon LLP
Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP & Affiliates
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP

Band 4
Baker Botts LLP
Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Jones Day
King & Spalding LLP
Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP
sidley austin llp
White & Case LLP
Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP
WilmerHale




Intellectual Property: Trade Mark & Copyright: New York

Band 1
Debevoise & Plimpton LLP
Fross Zelnick Lehrman & Zissu PC

Band 2
Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman
Kirkland & Ellis LLP
Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP

Band 3
Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
davis wright tremaine llp
Dorsey & Whitney LLP
Kilpatrick Stockton LLP
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP
Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP
White & Case LLP

Band 4
Arnold & Porter LLP
Baker & McKenzie LLP
Fulbright & Jaworski LLP
Lathrop & Gage LLP

Thanks for the advice, all. I know a number of the firms don't have huge IP practices. Between my PLIP interviews, I've got all of Band 1/2/3 in the Chambers list covered, except: Cravath (no chance), Patterson Belknap (not at OCI), Kenyon (not at OCI).

Anything that isn't on the Chambers IP guide that I should consider?