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HYS or Differ for Internship
Hi, I didn't know exactly where this should be posted exactly so I chose this forum.
Here's the deal. I've been accepted to HYS and I was all set to attend in the fall. However, the opportunity for an amazing internship opportunity at a V10 firm may be on the horizon, but I would have to differ my admission for two years in order to take advantage of it. So I'm looking for some advice on what path I should take. I know that I can gain some amazing experience and the internship could not only provide me with great skills and hopefully connections, but will also teach me some valuable tools to use while in law school, which will allow me to getter better grades and be more competitive for law review. My only thought is what if I can be just as successful in law school without the internship, which will maybe give me equally great options on graduation? I'm really so amped and ready to start law school right now, I love being a student, and I've been just waiting for this for so long.
So needless to say I'm confused, any thoughts?
Here's the deal. I've been accepted to HYS and I was all set to attend in the fall. However, the opportunity for an amazing internship opportunity at a V10 firm may be on the horizon, but I would have to differ my admission for two years in order to take advantage of it. So I'm looking for some advice on what path I should take. I know that I can gain some amazing experience and the internship could not only provide me with great skills and hopefully connections, but will also teach me some valuable tools to use while in law school, which will allow me to getter better grades and be more competitive for law review. My only thought is what if I can be just as successful in law school without the internship, which will maybe give me equally great options on graduation? I'm really so amped and ready to start law school right now, I love being a student, and I've been just waiting for this for so long.
So needless to say I'm confused, any thoughts?
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Do not defer. Your internship will probably create some networking opportunities, but go to HYS and never look back. This internship will not make you more competitive in LS.Anonymous User wrote:Hi, I didn't know exactly where this should be posted exactly so I chose this forum.
Here's the deal. I've been accepted to HYS and I was all set to attend in the fall. However, the opportunity for an amazing internship opportunity at a V10 firm may be on the horizon, but I would have to differ my admission for two years in order to take advantage of it. So I'm looking for some advice on what path I should take. I know that I can gain some amazing experience and the internship could not only provide me with great skills and hopefully connections, but will also teach me some valuable tools to use while in law school, which will allow me to getter better grades and be more competitive for law review. My only thought is what if I can be just as successful in law school without the internship, which will maybe give me equally great options on graduation? I'm really so amped and ready to start law school right now, I love being a student, and I've been just waiting for this for so long.
So needless to say I'm confused, any thoughts?
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Differ and take the internship, if offered. Law school will always be there and the economy might be better when you graduate in 2015 instead of 2013. The contacts and insight you'll gain at the internship are invaluable.Anonymous User wrote:Hi, I didn't know exactly where this should be posted exactly so I chose this forum.
Here's the deal. I've been accepted to HYS and I was all set to attend in the fall. However, the opportunity for an amazing internship opportunity at a V10 firm may be on the horizon, but I would have to differ my admission for two years in order to take advantage of it. So I'm looking for some advice on what path I should take. I know that I can gain some amazing experience and the internship could not only provide me with great skills and hopefully connections, but will also teach me some valuable tools to use while in law school, which will allow me to getter better grades and be more competitive for law review. My only thought is what if I can be just as successful in law school without the internship, which will maybe give me equally great options on graduation? I'm really so amped and ready to start law school right now, I love being a student, and I've been just waiting for this for so long.
So needless to say I'm confused, any thoughts?
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To be more specific on my situation
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- mallard
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Take this "internship" (it's called being a paralegal) if you want a job instead of to go to law school. It won't help you with grades or law review, though.
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1) This is the employment forum for students, probably not the correct place for a 'should I go to law school' post, but I am guessing you appreciate the anonymous feature it offers...
2) Defer is the word you want.
3) Does internship at a V10 firm mean paralegal or something else? Why do you have to do it for 2 years? Every school (and every applicant who asks) is different when it comes to deferrals. I know someone who deferred Harvard 2 years but it was a really painful process to get the second year.
If it is a paralegal job or something of the like, I am not in agreement that it will necessarily allow you to get better grades or be more competitive for law review. The people I know who worked at firms before coming to school might have 'slightly' more citation/research experience, but I haven't found them to be any more knowledgeable or have more ability when it comes to the work.
If you want to start like you say you do and you are already in you should go for it. If you are having second thoughts ask the deferral policy and explain your situation and see what happens. The worst they can do is say no, it's not as if they are going to revoke your admission because you ask.
2) Defer is the word you want.
3) Does internship at a V10 firm mean paralegal or something else? Why do you have to do it for 2 years? Every school (and every applicant who asks) is different when it comes to deferrals. I know someone who deferred Harvard 2 years but it was a really painful process to get the second year.
If it is a paralegal job or something of the like, I am not in agreement that it will necessarily allow you to get better grades or be more competitive for law review. The people I know who worked at firms before coming to school might have 'slightly' more citation/research experience, but I haven't found them to be any more knowledgeable or have more ability when it comes to the work.
If you want to start like you say you do and you are already in you should go for it. If you are having second thoughts ask the deferral policy and explain your situation and see what happens. The worst they can do is say no, it's not as if they are going to revoke your admission because you ask.
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I beg to differ, sir.rad law wrote:Differ.
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Oh please "differ" and then lemme know what they said hehe
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any other thoughts?
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Yup, don't take the job. It's bullshit!Anonymous User wrote:any other thoughts?
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Learn to spell defer before you go push paper for some real lawyers.
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+1. I hope this was just a mistake and HYS didn't "except" someone with that kind of spelling knowledge.merichard87 wrote:Learn to spell defer before you go push paper for some real lawyers.
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Well, I don't know everything about H/Y/S deferral policies, but I suspect that they will not grant your request this late in the game. I know that Yale has sent us all sorts of "we've finalized our class" info and doubt that they'd want to scramble to replace you for a two year paralegal job. If you were awarded the Rhodes scholarship or something of that sort it might be a different matter.
Um. You do know that neither Yale, Harvard, nor Stanford have "grades" as such. And regarding law review, all three of them are "write on." I don't see how spending a couple of years filing papers at a firm will make you a better writer.allow me to getter better grades and be more competitive for law review
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Is this opportunity paid or unpaid? When I think "internship", I think un-paid... in which case, go to HYS.
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I call troll.
Your writing is terrible. Unless you are some insanely rare URM with some sort of world changing experience, I strongly doubt that you are capable of performing at either a V10 firm or YHS.
Your writing is redundant.
Your adverbs are weak.
Your tone is childish.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Nonsense. Complete nonsense.
Your writing is terrible. Unless you are some insanely rare URM with some sort of world changing experience, I strongly doubt that you are capable of performing at either a V10 firm or YHS.
Your writing is redundant.
Your adverbs are weak.
Your tone is childish.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Nonsense. Complete nonsense.
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I suspected the same, but why troll with such a mundane question? There's nothing in here to get people riled-up. If the question were "should I defer from H/Y/S to 'liberate' Palestine" or "should I defer from H/Y/S to evangelize among 'the savages' for the Mormon church" then it might have a chance at starting a troll-worthy flame war.Mirrored wrote:I call troll.
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Well, if OP really is an HYS admit, this helps lay to rest the myth that HYS admits are super geniuses. We can all take solace in the fact that us non-admits are probably every bit as talented as those that make it there.
And to answer OP's question, why would you seriously consider deferring HYS?! Have you thought about this in terms of opportunity cost? You're pretty much guaranteed to land a great gig coming out of HYS making $160K/year in BigLaw, if that's what you want. One or two years at $160K >>>>>>>>>>>>>one or two years of a paralegal salary. The math is simple.
And to answer OP's question, why would you seriously consider deferring HYS?! Have you thought about this in terms of opportunity cost? You're pretty much guaranteed to land a great gig coming out of HYS making $160K/year in BigLaw, if that's what you want. One or two years at $160K >>>>>>>>>>>>>one or two years of a paralegal salary. The math is simple.
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Start the thread. Let's do it.notanumber wrote:If the question were "should I defer from H/Y/S to 'liberate' Palestine" or "should I defer from H/Y/S to evangelize among 'the savages' for the Mormon church" then it might have a chance at starting a troll-worthy flame war.
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With logic like that...sundevil77 wrote:Well, if OP really is an HYS admit, this helps lay to rest the myth that HYS admits are super geniuses. We can all take solace in the fact that us non-admits are probably every bit as talented as those that make it there.
Also, does that myth really exist?
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People have trolled before with more mundane questions. Trolls work in mysterious ways.notanumber wrote:I suspected the same, but why troll with such a mundane question? There's nothing in here to get people riled-up. If the question were "should I defer from H/Y/S to 'liberate' Palestine" or "should I defer from H/Y/S to evangelize among 'the savages' for the Mormon church" then it might have a chance at starting a troll-worthy flame war.Mirrored wrote:I call troll.
I concur with Mirrored.
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No, I know a bunch of them. They are not. Not that they aren't smart, but...come on.mallard wrote:With logic like that...sundevil77 wrote:Well, if OP really is an HYS admit, this helps lay to rest the myth that HYS admits are super geniuses. We can all take solace in the fact that us non-admits are probably every bit as talented as those that make it there.
Also, does that myth really exist?
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Quick, OP - identify the reasoning flaw at hand so that we may decide whether or not you're flaming us all.mallard wrote:With logic like that...sundevil77 wrote:Well, if OP really is an HYS admit, this helps lay to rest the myth that HYS admits are super geniuses. We can all take solace in the fact that us non-admits are probably every bit as talented as those that make it there.
Also, does that myth really exist?
As for the myth, I'm pretty sure that it does exist to some extent. Although us CCN-ers like to think otherwise, of course.
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Also, I advocate that if this person is a troll they be warned for posting inappropriate crap in the employment thread to just use anonymity.
"Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, clerkship, etc."
None of what this person posted was sensitive IMO, nor related to "Students and Graduates>>Legal Employment" subthread. If the anonymous feature allows people to troll without at least creating a new "0 post" screenname to let people at least know it's flame and THEN argue aimlessly, I take issue.
Okay, I will stop being an asshole now.
"Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, clerkship, etc."
None of what this person posted was sensitive IMO, nor related to "Students and Graduates>>Legal Employment" subthread. If the anonymous feature allows people to troll without at least creating a new "0 post" screenname to let people at least know it's flame and THEN argue aimlessly, I take issue.
Okay, I will stop being an asshole now.
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