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MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:50 pm
by Anonymous User
For a summer 2L...i'm working as a law clerk at a law firm. However, i also got an internship with a state's AGs office. Is it a good idea to split the summer and experience both or would that take substance away from the firm job.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:55 pm
by Z3RO
I'm an 0L, but I have to imagine that it has something to do with your career goals. What do those look like?

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:00 pm
by Ipsa Dixit
I'd stick with the firm job for the whole summer and do an externship with the AG's office during the school year.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:06 pm
by nealric
What kind of law firm is it? Is it the type of think that would lead to a full time offer?

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:10 pm
by Anonymous User
Yes, its with a decent sized firm. The attorney there said i have a great chance at working there after summer but doesn't mind if i do the AGs office. This is just in terms of how it looks to have a split summer. Is it worth the extra line on the resume of working at the AGs office to have a split summer? Or does it take away from a decent law clerk job at a reputable firm?

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:12 pm
by Anonymous User
I want to eventually either work at a firm or do a clerkship.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:19 pm
by bceagles182
If you're serious about getting an offer from the law firm after graduation, I'd stick with just the firm this summer

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:09 pm
by Posner
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Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:11 pm
by Anonymous User
It depends on the state and the firm.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:54 pm
by BradyToMoss
Firm job all summer, and make damn sure they have no reason to not give you an offer. As far as resume building goes: Employment at a firm upon graduation >>>> Half Summer Interning with State AG.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:33 pm
by underdawg
yeah, this is a pretty black and white issue. firm all the way

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:27 pm
by 270910
Z3RO wrote:[strike]I'm an 0L, but I have to imagine that it has something to do with your career goals. What do those look like?[/strike]
Go away. I love you, and you'll make a fine law student, and we're all a family, but you really have no idea what you're talking about - and when the 0Ls start doing it en mass, it gets REALLY annoying.

Not trying to jump down your throat, just realize that you're being unhelpful :P

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:37 pm
by chocho
disco_barred wrote:
Z3RO wrote:[strike]I'm an 0L, but I have to imagine that it has something to do with your career goals. What do those look like?[/strike]
Go away. I love you, and you'll make a fine law student, and we're all a family, but you really have no idea what you're talking about - and when the 0Ls start doing it en mass, it gets REALLY annoying.

Not trying to jump down your throat, just realize that you're being unhelpful :P
im pretty sure career goals are important. pretty sure he didnt give any advice actually. pretty sure.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:39 pm
by TheBigMediocre
Isn't the common mantra, "dont split summers"?

That seems to be the advice given on the SA-compiled "What to know" thread.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:48 pm
by 270910
TheBigMediocre wrote:Isn't the common mantra, "dont split summers"?

That seems to be the advice given on the SA-compiled "What to know" thread.
There's a pretty big difference between splitting between 2 firms that might give you a permanent offer and splitting between a firm and somewhere else that likely won't. It's still not ideal in the eyes of many firms, no doubt, but the general 'don't even think about splitting ITE' advice is with respect to dual firm 2L summers.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:21 am
by underdawg
disco_barred wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:Isn't the common mantra, "dont split summers"?

That seems to be the advice given on the SA-compiled "What to know" thread.
There's a pretty big difference between splitting between 2 firms that might give you a permanent offer and splitting between a firm and somewhere else that likely won't. It's still not ideal in the eyes of many firms, no doubt, but the general 'don't even think about splitting ITE' advice is with respect to dual firm 2L summers.
i don't really see why. still less dedication to your firm. still easy to stand out (in a negative way) come evaluation time. ok you're not waffling between firms...but you're waffling between two entirely different jobs now

ITE, you have to do everything in your power to get an offer. you might goof on an assignment or be awkward at a social function. stuff happens. but for something like this, FULLY within your control, imho you'd be an idiot to split the summer

get an externship or a clinic for the school year to scratch your government itch

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:05 am
by Action Jackson
Anonymous User wrote:Yes, its with a decent sized firm. The attorney there said i have a great chance at working there after summer but doesn't mind if i do the AGs office. This is just in terms of how it looks to have a split summer. Is it worth the extra line on the resume of working at the AGs office to have a split summer? Or does it take away from a decent law clerk job at a reputable firm?
You need to rethink how you approach this. Ask that attorney, "Do you think working at the AGs office will give me unique experience or skills that would be valuable here at this firm?" In other words, you're asking him how you can be a better candidate for the firm job you really want. If he says "no" then don't split. If he says "yes" then split and every now and then let the people at the firm know what you're learning and how you hope to add it to the firm.

You can split and still seem SUPER interested in one of the positions.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:42 pm
by BradyToMoss
underdawg wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
TheBigMediocre wrote:Isn't the common mantra, "dont split summers"?

That seems to be the advice given on the SA-compiled "What to know" thread.
There's a pretty big difference between splitting between 2 firms that might give you a permanent offer and splitting between a firm and somewhere else that likely won't. It's still not ideal in the eyes of many firms, no doubt, but the general 'don't even think about splitting ITE' advice is with respect to dual firm 2L summers.
i don't really see why. still less dedication to your firm. still easy to stand out (in a negative way) come evaluation time. ok you're not waffling between firms...but you're waffling between two entirely different jobs now

ITE, you have to do everything in your power to get an offer. you might goof on an assignment or be awkward at a social function. stuff happens. but for something like this, FULLY within your control, imho you'd be an idiot to split the summer

get an externship or a clinic for the school year to scratch your government itch
TCR.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:13 pm
by CanadianWolf
I agree with Z3RO's post.

Re: MUST DECIDE IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:01 am
by Corsair
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