Secondary IP Markets Forum

[dreman510]

Obviously it is a niche field (more specifically-patent).
But after NYC, DC, Houston, SF, and Boston, are there any other cities with somewhat sizable patent law markets?

[sanpiero]

you forgot one of the biggest (chi)

[dreman510]

you forgot one of the biggest (chi)

Yea my bad, I realized that after...
I guess I was thinking more along the lines of areas like Philly, South Florida, SoCal, Atlanta, NJ?

[sanpiero]

seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

[dreman510]

seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?

[Renzo]

seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?

Don't know about Seattle, but there's biotech in Denver.

[Anonymous User]

seattle and denver should have decent ip markets given their prevalent industries

phoenix has a decent ip market (intc and mot have offices here)

What are the prevalent industries in seattle and denver?

amazon, boeing, and microsoft alone should allow seattle a good deal of IP activity

denver has a number of large telecom companies

[yeast master]

I've heard that the Research Triangle in NC has a decent amount of IP. I can't remember the name of the firm, but I found one in the area with a bunch of bio PhD's.

[basetommyball]

Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.

[Anonymous User]

Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.

Do you know if there's much biotech IP work in those cities?

[yeast master]

Oops. Didn't mean to be anonymous. The last post is mine.

[dreman510]

Dallas and Houston. Plenty of patent work for energy companies. They also provide great opportunity for TR and TM issues.

Do you know if there's much biotech IP work in those cities?

Is it safe to assume that any city with sizable, respectable research hospitals has some form of biotech/pharmaceuticals going on?

[dreman510]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

[Renzo]

Is it safe to assume that any city with sizable, respectable research hospitals has some form of biotech/pharmaceuticals going on?

No. There will be drug trials and research going on, but you want to be where the companies that commercialize such research are.

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly..

"a lot" is too strong a qualifier to hang on one drug company. Yes, Wyeth will generate IP work, but probably enough to keep a few lawyers at one firm busy.

[starstruck393]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

[dreman510]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?

[starstruck393]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?

Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

[dreman510]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?

Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

NYC at #4, behind Chi?

[starstruck393]

One more question-any city where a pharmaceutical company is headquartered, is there going to be significant patent work there?
For instance-Johnson & Johnson and Merck are both in NJ-does that mean there is a lot of patent work in NJ?
Wyeth is in Philly...

Not really. Just because a company is headquartered somewhere doesn't mean that the IP work will be done there. For instance, I'd imagine the majority of NJ pharm IP would go to NYC or DC. It really isn't that strange, for big and powerful companies, to use IP firms on the other side of the country. The firms tend to be located in larger cities: DC, CHI, SilVal, NYC, LA, HOU, with decent markets also in like ATL, STL, even a little in DET. Your best bet is to look at the larger cities, even if not the premier markets, since more firms will be found there...

So LA has decent Patent practices?

Yea, not as much as SF-SilVal, but still a large amount. If I had to rank IP markets, I'd probably have LA at 5, behind DC, SF-SilVal, Chi and NYC, in that order...

NYC at #4, behind Chi?

That's my opinion, yea. Chi seems to have a more developed IP culture going on. NYC's no slouch with IP, but I'd say the market in Chicago is bigger...

[matrix637]

Which one of these areas/schools do you think offer greater job prospects for biotech patent? Houston UofH, SilVal Santa Clara or LA Loyola?

[starstruck393]

Which one of these areas/schools do you think offer greater job prospects for biotech patent? Houston UofH, SilVal Santa Clara or LA Loyola?

The big question is where do you want to practice. I'd say, in an abstract, IP sense, the order is Santa Clara, UH, Loyola LA. Santa Clara probably has the best IP program out of the three, and is in the best IP market, but UH is the best overall school, and isn't bad for IP (I know a Chi biglaw partner who does biotech IP and went to UH, for instance). Loyola seems to be lacking behind. But location is big. Santa Clara would win in SilVal, UH in TX, and Loyola would most likely beat out Santa Clara in LA.

Objectively, I think the best biotech market out of those would be SilVal, but you'd also have the stiffest competition, whereas UH would give the best odds competition wise. I'd personally pick between those, based on which area you'd rather be in...