UVA Class of 2012 Forum

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It's always during Thanksgiving break weekend so I'll probably never see one but students just walk into the stadium with their IDs for football so that's pretty easy as far as I know. Getting student guest tickets involves a lottery but I'm not sure what the supply/demand is for that. I think VT guest tickets are like $50.

its going to be weird not to have to pay just to be in the student ticket lottery...i can just walk in...wow thats exciting

Really? Wow, I come from a land of few high stakes/exciting games (sorry, W&M, it's not me... it's you). Anyone else excited about an actual sports franchise, if you will?

YES. Definitely. Even if UVA's not winning, the fact that it's a major conference excites me.

My school was D1, but Northern Arizona vs. CSU Sacramento football games just never got my blood pumping.

Dartmouth football just had its worst season since 1892.

[gladiator]

A partially completed Fall class schedule is now up on SIS. Of note, you guys have CivPro at the 3:40-5 PM timeslot.

It looks like they're filling the schedule in right now so maybe it'll be done by the end of the day.

[geoffree]

A partially completed Fall class schedule is now up on SIS. Of note, you guys have CivPro at the 3:40-5 PM timeslot.

It looks like they're filling the schedule in right now so maybe it'll be done by the end of the day.

Yeah, it's only CivPro that's up for 1Ls.

[gladiator]

Mitchell, Nelson, and Collins are teaching 7 of the 12 sections of CivPro so the majority of you will have pretty solid professors for CivPro. I'm not sure how good the rest of them are.

[270910]

A partially completed Fall class schedule is now up on SIS. Of note, you guys have CivPro at the 3:40-5 PM timeslot.

It looks like they're filling the schedule in right now so maybe it'll be done by the end of the day.

awesome! how much will we be able to know before we found out which sections we're in?

on a related note, anybody know if UVA has seen any waitlist movement and/or if we're over enrolled (again)?

[gladiator]

Well all classes are the same timeslots so you'll know when your classes are but professors are set by section so you won't know them until sections are announced which is unfortunately only the Thurs or Fri before orientation.

[jdn012]

Well all classes are the same timeslots so you'll know when your classes are but professors are set by section so you won't know them until sections are announced which is unfortunately only the Thurs or Fri before orientation.

wow, that's really late. Also, considering you said there were 12 sections for Civ Pro, does that mean that Civ Pro will be the only class that we have only with our section (in addition to LRW)?

[gladiator]

Well all classes are the same timeslots so you'll know when your classes are but professors are set by section so you won't know them until sections are announced which is unfortunately only the Thurs or Fri before orientation.

wow, that's really late. Also, considering you said there were 12 sections for Civ Pro, does that mean that Civ Pro will be the only class that we have only with our section (in addition to LRW)?

There aren't 12 separate CivPro sections; there are 7. I just meant those 3 professors will be teaching 7 of the 12 sections. CivPro will be the small section class for 3 sections.

Collins will be teaching 3 at the same time, Mitchell 2, and Nelson 2. So if you get Collins, you'll be in a ~90 person class for CivPro.

[gladiator]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

[a.williams]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[jdn012]

Well all classes are the same timeslots so you'll know when your classes are but professors are set by section so you won't know them until sections are announced which is unfortunately only the Thurs or Fri before orientation.

wow, that's really late. Also, considering you said there were 12 sections for Civ Pro, does that mean that Civ Pro will be the only class that we have only with our section (in addition to LRW)?

There aren't 12 separate CivPro sections; there are 7. I just meant those 3 professors will be teaching 7 of the 12 sections. CivPro will be the small section class for 3 sections.

Collins will be teaching 3 at the same time, Mitchell 2, and Nelson 2. So if you get Collins, you'll be in a ~90 person class for CivPro.

ahhh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[RVP11]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

In the case of Kraus, we're getting spared UVA's most notorious cold-caller. I'm relieved, but a bit disappointed we won't have that challenge.

[gladiator]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Some of both. Kraus is a tough cold caller but most people who have him love him and he taught a 90 person class last fall.

[RVP11]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Some of both. Kraus is a tough cold caller but most people who have him love him and he taught a 90 person class last fall.

Are there any other profs teaching the 1L courses that are known for being tough cold-callers?

[a.williams]

Update: Contracts 8:30-9:50 class

So, Contracts, Crim or Torts, Crim or Torts, CivPro will be the order...should be revealed within the hour.

In a very weird turn of events for you guys, Kraus and Leslie aren't teaching Contracts this fall.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Some of both. Kraus is a tough cold caller but most people who have him love him and he taught a 90 person class last fall.

I am a little disappointed but relieved at the same time.

[gladiator]

Are there any other profs teaching the 1L courses that are known for being tough cold-callers?

Since I didn't have most of these professors it'd be purely on word of mouth so Kraus is the only one I can think of that is especially known for it. I think Abraham (Torts) maybe was. Barzun, my Torts professor, wasn't mean but did tend to grill you on facts more than we all thought was necessary. Mitchell, my CivPro professor, could be tough but it tended to vary and while he might berate you, he's not serious when he does. Kordana didn't cold call at all and Harmon wasn't that bad but would literally stand over students and force them to read out of the text when they were too dumb to answer easy questions.

Most likely your PAs will give you a primer on your professors during orientation.

[RVP11]

Is it weird to hope you get a tough cold-caller? I was/am looking forward to the challenge. I figure law school wouldn't be law school unless I find out (or am told) how dumb I am.

[gladiator]

Is it weird to hope you get a tough cold-caller? I was/am looking forward to the challenge. I figure law school wouldn't be law school unless I find out (or am told) how dumb I am.

Guess it depends what type of person you are. I hate getting cold called for fear of public speaking/the blow to my ego.

Also, I've been told Kraus is gone because he's a visiting professor at Michigan this coming year.

[a.williams]

Is it weird to hope you get a tough cold-caller? I was/am looking forward to the challenge. I figure law school wouldn't be law school unless I find out (or am told) how dumb I am.

I thought I was alone on this, but I guess not.

[showNprove]

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[gladiator]

Damn it. I did not want to start every morning with Contracts.

We won't know which days we have class until we know our sections, which won't be until close to orientation, right?

Correct.

Contracts is actually a pretty good class for 8:30. Waking up for Torts or CivPro seems much worse to me.

[showNprove]

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[Cavalier]

A partially completed Fall class schedule is now up on SIS. Of note, you guys have CivPro at the 3:40-5 PM timeslot.

I really don't know how class schedules work. Does this mean that some people will have a 3:40-5 PM class on Friday? If so, that would really stink. As much as I dislike early morning classes, I find Friday afternoon classes to be much worse.

[gladiator]

Different people have different tastes but I think you'll find Contracts isn't as bad as it sounds. I assume which professor you get will play a role but I remember before school started thinking Contracts would be the worst and it was pretty interesting.

I really don't know how class schedules work. Does this mean that some people will have a 3:40-5 PM class on Friday? If so, that would really stink. As much as I dislike early morning classes, I find Friday afternoon classes to be much worse.

None of the CivPro sections will meet on Fridays so no 1Ls will have class Fri 3:40-5. All of them meet Mon, Wed, Thurs 3:40-5:00 or Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs 3:40-4:40 according to the schedule.

[gladiator]

Crim has been set at 10 AM so your schedule will be approximately:

Contracts 8:30-9:50
CrimLaw 10:00-11:20
Torts 2:10-3:30
CivPro: 3:40-5:00
LRW: Thrown in somewhere once a week

Typically your classes will meet 3 times/week but Crim could be 2 and the others could be 4.