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What are your predictions for the 2010 rankings considering these numbers for the 2009 class?


Just a little late night fun, don't hate.

how is penn more high GPA splitter friendly than berkeley? this makes no sense.

Ok, I'll go first before i go to bed.

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Chicago
7. Berkeley
8. Virginia
8. Penn
10. Michigan
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
14. Texas
16. UCLA
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. WUSTL

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chicago
5. NYU
7. Berkley
7. Penn
9. UVA
10. Michigan
11. Duke
11. Northwestern
13. Cornell
13. Georgetown
13. Texas
16. UCLA
16. Vanderbilt
18. USC
18. WUSTL

How is Michigan ranked ahead of UVA when UVA's medians are both above Michigan?

I'm going to UVA now so they should definitely move up to 8th.

garfike wrote:How is Michigan ranked ahead of UVA when UVA's medians are both above Michigan?

Are all the other factors equal? I mean, numbers aren't the only criterion here. If their "employment rates", bar passage rates, peer assessments, etc. were all equal, then you're right, and that wouldn't make sense. But if Michigan eclipses UVA in those other categories (I'm not saying they do, I have absolutely no idea) then UVA could still have higher medians and be ranked lower.

jawsthegreat wrote:I'm going to UVA now so they should definitely move up to 8th.

I concur (well on the movement, hopefully on the going part too).

of Benito Cereno wrote:1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. Chicago
5. NYU
7. Berkley
7. Penn
9. UVA
10. Michigan
11. Duke
11. Northwestern
13. Cornell
13. Georgetown
13. Texas
16. UCLA
16. Vanderbilt
18. USC
18. WUSTL

+1 to this except I would put Texas at 14, not tied at 13

garfike wrote:How is Michigan ranked ahead of UVA when UVA's medians are both above Michigan?

Median LSAT is 12.5% of the overall score and GPA is 10%, compared to academic reputation (25%), reputation among lawyers and judges (15%), employment 9 months after graduation (12%), and a bunch of other stuff.

Also, Michigan beat UVA by 1 point (and was beaten by Penn by 1 point), so it's not like they are worlds apart according to the rankings. Thus why the T14 are often broken down into groups like MVP (or BMVP, but that seems more rare). They really are peer schools.

Personally, I don't think the rankings will change significantly, though I suppose the economy could shake things up a bit? Georgetown could finally be supplanted, but I doubt it.

Or, I mean... Michigan's flying to no. 1!

EDIT- ranking information source: http://www.leiterrankings.com/usnews/guide.shtml

I wonder if this is the year GULC drops out?

these are possibly the most overdone threads, most boring threads, and least helpful threads on tls.

I'm working on a paper and am very bored, these kind of threads are perfect for times like this.

jawsthegreat wrote:I'm working on a paper and am very bored, this kind of threads are perfect for times like this.

1. Cooley
2. Yale
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Columbia
6. Chicago
7. NYU
8. Berkley
9. Penn
10. UVA
11. Michigan
12. Duke
13. Northwestern
14. Cornell
15. Georgetown
16. Texas
17. UCLA
18. Vanderbilt
19. USC
20. WUSTL

You could have given me a little hat tip for using my table.

rondemarino wrote:You could have given me a little hat tip for using my table.

Lol

rondemarino wrote:You could have given me a little hat tip for using my table.

UVA will be #1 because I will be there.

outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

rejectmaster wrote:outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

ITT: Chicago becomes a regional school.

rejectmaster wrote:outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

No, every T10 school can place you anywhere in the country. The Top 3 are just better at it.

rejectmaster wrote:outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

ITE even Harvard and Stanford are gambles. Strong regionals at best.

thedogship wrote:

rejectmaster wrote:outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

ITE even Harvard and Stanford are gambles. Strong regionals at best.

Your been reading too many crazy TLS threads if you actually believe that.

soullesswonder wrote:

rejectmaster wrote:outside of harvard, yale, stanford, and maybe columbia, doesn't it all become much more regional?

they're all still great schools but why would you go to uchicago over nyu if you wanted to be in NY or vice versa.

ITT: Chicago becomes a regional school.

i wasn't clear.. what i mean to say is, assuming UChicago and NYU are peer schools, why would you move out of your target market to attend either one (assuming your target market is chicago or ny).

Duke and Michigan definitely throw this theory out of the window since they don't really have their own markets, but I don't see the advantage of Northwestern (higher rank) than GULC if DC is your goal.