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epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:40 pm
by Lmao Zedong
I have about a 3.7 from my UG. on my LSDAS report it says this GPA is 56th percentile for my school. I didn't realize the grade inflation was that bad here - to what extent is that going to cheapen my GPA in the eyes of adcomms? will they still look at it as a legit 3.7, or have a tendency to laugh it off?

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:42 pm
by Lyov Myshkin
GargamelITT wrote:I have about a 3.7 from my UG. on my LSDAS report it says this GPA is 56th percentile for my school. I didn't realize the grade inflation was that bad here - to what extent is that going to cheapen my GPA in the eyes of adcomms? will they still look at it as a legit 3.7, or have a tendency to laugh it off?
haha, they wont care.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:44 pm
by Nom Sawyer
Lyov Myshkin wrote:
GargamelITT wrote:I have about a 3.7 from my UG. on my LSDAS report it says this GPA is 56th percentile for my school. I didn't realize the grade inflation was that bad here - to what extent is that going to cheapen my GPA in the eyes of adcomms? will they still look at it as a legit 3.7, or have a tendency to laugh it off?
haha, they wont care.
most likely not,but.. wow... 3.7 and 56%?? Thats like a mean of 3.6....

Shouldn't you have like a 4+ coming out of there OP? I remember your like a 175+ or so.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:45 pm
by Lyov Myshkin
50% at my school is like 3.4 :(

you lucky (lazy) bastard.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:46 pm
by Lyov Myshkin
someone's nervous about not having gotten a phone call lol

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:47 pm
by Nom Sawyer
Lyov Myshkin wrote:50% at my school is like 3.4 :(

you lucky (lazy) bastard.
haha lyov 3.4 is still a little grade inflated I think.. ours is like 3.25~3.3, which is still like a B+ average. I think thats quite high..

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:48 pm
by Lyov Myshkin
SolarWind wrote:
Lyov Myshkin wrote:50% at my school is like 3.4 :(

you lucky (lazy) bastard.
haha lyov 3.4 is still a little grade inflated I think.. ours is like 3.25~3.3, which is still like a B+ average. I think thats quite high..
its all relative baby. :D

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:52 pm
by Nom Sawyer
Lyov Myshkin wrote:
SolarWind wrote:
Lyov Myshkin wrote:50% at my school is like 3.4 :(

you lucky (lazy) bastard.
haha lyov 3.4 is still a little grade inflated I think.. ours is like 3.25~3.3, which is still like a B+ average. I think thats quite high..
its all relative baby. :D
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Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:54 pm
by Lmao Zedong
yeah I guess median would have to be a 3.6x, which seems heinously high. although, maybe there's some self-selective strengthening going on because that's the GPA scale for students applying to law school, not just the student body at large.

of course, there's probably a similar sort of effect at every UG and not just mine

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:56 pm
by grrrstick
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Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:58 pm
by Nom Sawyer
SolarWind wrote:
Lyov Myshkin wrote:
SolarWind wrote:
Lyov Myshkin wrote:50% at my school is like 3.4 :(

you lucky (lazy) bastard.
haha lyov 3.4 is still a little grade inflated I think.. ours is like 3.25~3.3, which is still like a B+ average. I think thats quite high..
its all relative baby. :D
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No love for the "relative baby"???? C'mon it was perfect!!!!

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:01 pm
by Lmao Zedong
it took me a little while to get it. nicely done

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:09 pm
by eshort
Relative Baby was best ever!

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:24 pm
by Lysis
Relative baby made my day.

My school also has a mean UPGA at 3.6, which is kind of embarrassing. (We might've determined in an earlier thread that we go to the same place?)
I think it has to do with the grading policy here, combined w/ a fair bit of inflation.

I'm hoping (self-interestedly) that schools don't care.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:26 pm
by airefresco
Doesn't that number only account for students applying to law schools, not the entire student body?

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:34 pm
by Unitas
airefresco wrote:Doesn't that number only account for students applying to law schools, not the entire student body?
I believe it is people who have sent transcripts to LSAC.. Who intend to apply to law schools.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:41 pm
by Lyov Myshkin
SolarWind wrote:
SolarWind wrote:
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No love for the "relative baby"???? C'mon it was perfect!!!!
haha sorry was away from tls for a bit. that shit is perfect :D

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:44 pm
by Black-Blue
grrrstick wrote:http://gradeinflation.com/

Average is about 3.5 at Yale and Harvard. Pretty absurd.
No not absurd. A 3.5 at Yale and Harvard would have 10 LSAT points higher on average than a 3.8 in some low tier state school. Yet, law school seems that the 3.5 is inferior even though it's harder to get that 3.5.

If anything, top UGs are grade deflated, using LSAT as adjuster.

LSAC needs to have a school adjustment factor for GPA.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:40 pm
by Nom Sawyer
Black-Blue wrote:
grrrstick wrote:http://gradeinflation.com/

Average is about 3.5 at Yale and Harvard. Pretty absurd.
No not absurd. A 3.5 at Yale and Harvard would have 10 LSAT points higher on average than a 3.8 in some low tier state school. Yet, law school seems that the 3.5 is inferior even though it's harder to get that 3.5.

If anything, top UGs are grade deflated, using LSAT as adjuster.

LSAC needs to have a school adjustment factor for GPA.
Well whichever way LSAC makes the policy its never going to be completely fair.. I mean the whole two numbers = 90% of your application makes things the way it is.. Not much we can do about it I guess.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:49 pm
by HerseyChris
grrrstick wrote:http://gradeinflation.com/

Average is about 3.5 at Yale and Harvard. Pretty absurd.
Seems fair to me. Pretty much everyone who goes to Michigan or Texas or BC would go to Harvard or Yale if they could (excluding the fact that some people like to watch and be a part of the sports scene and the fact that some people wouldn't want to be the dumbest person at their school).
If anything Harvard and Yale should have a 3.7 or 3.8 average.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 pm
by soullesswonder
Black-Blue wrote:
grrrstick wrote:http://gradeinflation.com/

Average is about 3.5 at Yale and Harvard. Pretty absurd.
No not absurd. A 3.5 at Yale and Harvard would have 10 LSAT points higher on average than a 3.8 in some low tier state school. Yet, law school seems that the 3.5 is inferior even though it's harder to get that 3.5.

If anything, top UGs are grade deflated, using LSAT as adjuster.

LSAC needs to have a school adjustment factor for GPA.
GTFO

Anyone who thinks top UGs suffer from "deflation" is an elitist troll.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:07 pm
by Lmao Zedong
have I created a monster?

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:09 pm
by rayiner
What would be the point of adjusting UGPA's based on UG LSAT? At that point you might as well just forget the UGPA...

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:52 am
by ArmyVet07
I wonder whether adcomms consider grade inflation when evaluating grades from 10 or more years ago.

Re: epic grade inflation

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:37 am
by oneforship
rayiner wrote:. . .[Y]ou might as well just forget the UGPA...