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MichiganThat looks pretty right to me. I might debate switching Berkeley/Columbia and NYU/Penn, but it's probably pretty spot on as is.mallen210 wrote:Following a debate with someone, I'm curious what you think? PR's list is crap!
1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Berkeley
5. Columbia
6. Chicago
7. Penn
8. NYU
9. Virginia
10. Michigan
Just my 2 cents...
+1Unemployed wrote:"Unpredictable" doesn't necessarily mean "tough." Toughness would have to be determined by some combination of GPA/LSAT/softs of the applicant pool, GPA/LSAT/softs of the accepted students, and (maybe) the acceptance rate.
That is to say, it's impossible and pointless to come up with a "T10" list.
+1. Harvard is so large that a person with solid stats is all but guaranteed to get in (by solid, of course, I mean damn good). At S and Y, good numbers will only make you marginally competitive; the classes are so small that they can afford to be even more choosy than H.masterpinky0509 wrote:Stanford is probably more difficult to get into than Harvard. Look at odds calculators at any combination of GPA/LSAT: where Harvard goes to like 90% probability of admission, Stanford still hovers around 50 or 60.
creditedhamsterhiatus wrote:+ 1Jay Obee wrote:+1Unemployed wrote:"Unpredictable" doesn't necessarily mean "tough." Toughness would have to be determined by some combination of GPA/LSAT/softs of the applicant pool, GPA/LSAT/softs of the accepted students, and (maybe) the acceptance rate.
That is to say, it's impossible and pointless to come up with a "T10" list.
Low yield is not equal to toughness. Toughness will vary from person to person, depending on scores. A high GPA/moderately high LSAT applicant may find Berkeley easy and Stanford Hard. A 180/4.0 student may find it hard to convince Penn to believe she would attend and to not YP her. If we are talking about just how hard it is to meet the typical requirements to get into a school, it may be hardest to get into NU, given the difficulty in getting good WE these days. They all have their difficulties. I'm kind of thankful they all don't have the same quirks, though.
Anyone who thinks Berkeley is harder to get into than Harvard is a retard.
Berkeley might get more applicants (and hence lower acceptance rate than X school) because low LSATs tend to apply to Berkeley thinking they have a shot while self-selecting out of applying to Harvard.
You cannot equate difficulty of getting in with "black box" admissions nor can you equate it with acceptance percentage rate alone. You have to look at GPA/LSAT acceptance combinations for accepted applicants along with the number of applicants for each school, the quality of the entire applicant pool at each school, and how much ECs/WE factor in for admissions.
Conclusion? This is a really retarded thread. For example, a high GPA/low LSAT tard might have an easy time getting into Berkeley and have no shot at Harvard because the LSAT is far too low.
not to us high lsat/low gpa splitterslaw2012 wrote:hamsterhiatus, your post is offensive.
I'm pretty sure he was referencing the use of the term "retard".1337Law wrote:not to us high lsat/low gpa splitterslaw2012 wrote:hamsterhiatus, your post is offensive.
world stop trying to correct me, i know exactly what he means,worldtraveler wrote:I'm pretty sure he was referencing the use of the term "retard".1337Law wrote:not to us high lsat/low gpa splitterslaw2012 wrote:hamsterhiatus, your post is offensive.
LOL AHAHAHAHA splittardshamsterhiatus wrote:law2012 wrote:hamsterhiatus, your post is offensive.Is it because you are going to Berkeley? Berkeley is probably the easiest top 10 school to get into for high GPA/low LSAT splittards.
What if I retard the engine?acegikm wrote:Come on future lawyers, can't we think of something more clever than the r-word?
From Special Olympics:
The 7 million people with intellectual disabilities (around the planet) who are on the receiving end of this hate speak are NEVER going to return your vitriol. Ever! So what could possibly be the up-side of continuing to use the "R-word" in your daily discourse?
http://www.r-word.org/?jmid=18395&j=231481601
Sorry for the political correctness diatribe, but this thread is just over the top.
what about in slang? likebetasteve wrote:What if I retard the engine?acegikm wrote:Come on future lawyers, can't we think of something more clever than the r-word?
From Special Olympics:
The 7 million people with intellectual disabilities (around the planet) who are on the receiving end of this hate speak are NEVER going to return your vitriol. Ever! So what could possibly be the up-side of continuing to use the "R-word" in your daily discourse?
http://www.r-word.org/?jmid=18395&j=231481601
Sorry for the political correctness diatribe, but this thread is just over the top.
Fair point. I admit I do equate 'black box' style admissions with toughness to an extent (I don't exactly have taste for unpredictability of that sort) but it probably is more sensible to base it off of the medley of factors.hamsterhiatus wrote: Anyone who thinks Berkeley is harder to get into than Harvard is a retard.
Berkeley might get more applicants (and hence lower acceptance rate than X school) because low LSATs tend to apply to Berkeley thinking they have a shot while self-selecting out of applying to Harvard.
You cannot equate difficulty of getting in with "black box" admissions nor can you equate it with acceptance percentage rate alone. You have to look at GPA/LSAT acceptance combinations for accepted applicants along with the number of applicants for each school, the quality of the entire applicant pool at each school, and how much ECs/WE factor in for admissions.
Conclusion? This is a really retarded thread. For example, a high GPA/low LSAT tard might have an easy time getting into Berkeley and have no shot at Harvard because the LSAT is far too low.
not a chance in a century from now's hell, uf is overrated as isflhealth wrote:i'll bet when the statistics come out this year, Florida is on the list....ridiculous this year